Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!ucbvax!telecom From: telecom@ucbvax.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.telecom Subject: CNA on CD Message-ID: <8602130901.AA25516@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 11-Feb-86 23:26:47 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8602130901.AA25516 Posted: Tue Feb 11 23:26:47 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Feb-86 00:21:40 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: Computer Science Dept, U of Minnesota Lines: 79 Approved: telecom@xx.lcs.mit.edu In article <8602110631.AA14409@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Ralph.Hyre@IUS2.CS.CMU.EDU writes: > >What the government do (if anything) about possible abuses. Will it be legal >for a person to sell his own CNA database? (If so, why hasn't anyone done >this before? Here in the Minneapolis/Saint Paul area, there are four alternatives: 1) There is a publication known as Cole's (I think) directory, available to businesses and without restriction to the public at libraries, which is a compilation of name, address, and phone number data organized by name, by address, and by phone number. The information is collected by periodic door-to-door survey. It is possible to keep your name out of this directory without a monthly charge. 2) Polk's directory is very similar to Cole's above in every respect, including availablilty, except that I found it a little more current and complete. 3) To quote from page 2 of the 1986 Minneapolis Consumer Directory (Yellow Pages): "STREET ADDRESS DIRECTORIES AVAILABLE "Street Address directories are available for several Northwestern Bell communities. Listings are arranged in street address order with the corresponding name and phone number following each listing. In a separate section, listings are arranged in telephone number sequence. Northwestern Bell publishes Street Address directories semi-annually for Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota, Omaha, Nebraska, and Des Moines and Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Call your Service Representative for pricing and ordering information." I was able to peruse copies of these directories at my leisure at the larger county libraries in the area, but they want some form of ID so that you do not walk off with them, as they contain a notice inside the covers stating that they are leased and old editions must be returned in order to get new ones. For the three cases above, the unconventional sortings are known variously as pink pages and blue pages. 4) To quote from page 11 of ibid. : "CURRENT NAME & ADDRESS SERVICE" "1 + 402-580-2255" "With this service you can obtain the name and address for any listed telephone number. This service is updated daily and is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week and serves Northwestern Bell's five states (Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota). For 50 cents, plus the long distance charge, you can obtain 2 listings per call. Non-published numbers are not available. "For more information on current name and address service in Minnesota call 535-5316." This is essentially a very current version of the published directories above, except that evidently "non-directory" listings are also available. >As I understand it, CNA stands for Called Number Authority. The phone company >keeps a list of number-person correspondences, which are available in many >cities by simply calling (presumably) secret phone number. (The CNA operator >answers and says 'Number, please?', you give number, they give name.) The >general public does not/is not supposed to have access to this information. The number is obviously not secret here. It is from the quoted text that I had assumed that CNA meant Current Name & Address. Some public libraries have a collection of recent telephone directories for most major cities around the world. It may be possible to glean this information for other cities by consulting such a collection. -- Honk honk! Why, it's Wobbles, the goose! Jeff Woolsey ...ihnp4{!stolaf}!umn-cs!woolsey woolsey@umn-cs.csnet