Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!nbires!boulder!cisden!john From: john@cisden.UUCP (John Woolley) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: a task for those opposed to abortion Message-ID: <464@cisden.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-Jan-86 11:25:22 EST Article-I.D.: cisden.464 Posted: Tue Jan 28 11:25:22 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Feb-86 23:54:33 EST References: <1100@oddjob.UUCP> <1730@druxu.UUCP> <30@valid.UUCP> <412@cisden.UUCP> <892@cybvax0.UUCP> Reply-To: john@cisden.UUCP (John Woolley) Distribution: na Organization: ConTel Information Systems, Denver Lines: 44 Mike Huybensz directs an important question to me in article <892@cybvax0.UUCP>: >Why don't you simply tell us why you think murder is wrong? Okay, I'll give it a shot. I oppose murder and abortion for three reasons primarily (although these overlap a lot). First, I'm a humanist; second, a civilised man; third (in order but not importance) a Christian. As to the first. I claim to be a humanist, by which I mean that I believe, without needing to inquire really deeply into the reasons for the belief and without any formal proof asked or given, that human things are good. I believe that people are valuable and, yes, inherently dignified; and that this value and dignity do not depend on my or anyone else's perception, but are a real aspect of what people *are*. Further, that nothing ever can remove this human dignity from someone, and that any treatment of people that devalues them or treats them as less than human, as not valuable, is wrong; not wrong in some relative or utilitarian sense, but wrong absolutely. Second, I am civilised, a part of Western civilisation, the tradition of Moses, Aristotle, Cicero, St. Augustine, St. Thomas, Dante, Shakespeare, Pascal, Mozart, Dickens. (To name only a very few.) It seems to me that one of the greatest "themes", if you will, of that civilisation is our gradually coming to realize that individuals are to be protected and nurtured by society, and that individual weakness is not an excuse for exploitation, but the exact opposite, a just claim for protection. And that life, liberty, and property are to be guaranteed by society as far as possible. Third, I am Christian, and believe therefore that all our race has been created after the image of the eternal God, that in our very nature we have the stamp and likeness of eternity. And further, that the Word has become flesh, has taken our nature into His own, and therefore that all flesh is holy, human-ness taken up into God and filled with His perfect love and joy. And therefore, that to kill or injure a person is not only inhuman, not only unjust, not only imprudent and uncivilised, but an act of blasphemy, a declaration of enmity with love Himself, an attempted violence against Reality. That's why I think murder is wrong. The third reason will appeal mostly to Christians (and in part to Jews); but the first and second seem to me to be pretty universal among what used to be called "people of good will". -- Peace and Good!, Fr. John Woolley "Compared to what I have seen, all that I have written is straw." -- St. Thomas