Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!utah-cs!utah-gr!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.ai,net.philosophy Subject: Re: A halting problem: a meaty response Message-ID: <1070@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-Jan-86 13:36:41 EST Article-I.D.: mmintl.1070 Posted: Thu Jan 23 13:36:41 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 30-Jan-86 04:38:26 EST References: <2175@aecom.UUCP> <14551@rochester.UUCP> <3978@kestrel.ARPA> <11452@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Distribution: net Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 17 Xref: watmath net.ai:3231 net.philosophy:3975 In article <11452@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@brahms.UUCP (Matthew P. Wiener) writes: >> Sure there are hard >>problems, but cleverer people pop up over the centuries and solve some >>of the outstanding problems, but then the remaining problems are >>harder, etc. > >That etc. is the topic of this response. > >There are problems now known which are believed forever insoluble. Just a note here -- this discussion gives examples of problems which are *believed* forever insoluble. This is not the same as being *known* to be insoluble. There does not seem to be any way to know that a problem is definitely insoluble (as distinct from undecidable in a formal system). Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108