Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!caip!im4u!milano!pcook From: pcook@milano.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Technology Review article Message-ID: <719@milano.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Feb-86 12:24:42 EST Article-I.D.: milano.719 Posted: Mon Feb 3 12:24:42 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Feb-86 01:32:26 EST References: <7500002@ada-uts.UUCP> Sender: pcook@milano.UUCP Organization: MCC, Austin, TX Lines: 43 Summary: "Never" is a long time, Orville! In article <7500002@ada-uts.UUCP>, richw@ada-uts.UUCP writes: > > Has anyone read the article about AI in the February issue of > "Technology Review"? You can't miss it -- the cover says something > like: "In 25 years, AI has still not lived up to its promises and > there's no reason to think it ever will" (not a direct quote; I don't > have the copy with me). General comments? > This article is a plug for a book and use of a current topic to get back at the AI community for an imagined snub. Hubert Dreyfus was stood up by John McCarthy of Stanford at a debate on on a third echelon public tv station in the bay area, and is still mad. First, the premise: AI, expert systems, and knowledge-rule based systems have been overly optimistic in their promises and stand short of delivered results. Probably true, but many of the systems, once implemented, lose their mystical qualities, and look a lot like other computer applications. It's the ones that are in the buliding process which seem to present extravagant claims. As presented, however, the article is a shrill cry rather than a reasoned response. It leans heavily on proof by intense assertion. As a pilot I find examples which range from dubious to incorrect. As a scientist I object to the gee whiz Reader's Digest tone. As a retired Air Force Officer I object to the position that the commander's common sense is the ideal form of combat decision making. And as a philosopher (albiet not expert) I object to the muddy intellectual approach, rife with questionable presuppositions, faulty dilemmas, and illogical conclusions. I agree that the topic is worthy of discussion- our work to realize the potential of computers must not degenerate into a fad which will fade from the scene. But I object to a diatribe where advances in the field are dismissed as trivial because current systems do not equal human performance. -- ...Pete Peter G. Cook Lt. Colonel pcook@mcc.arpa Liaison, Motorola, Inc. USAFR(Ret) ut-sally!im4u!milano!pcook MCC-Software Technology Program 512-834-3348 9430 Research Blvd. Suite 200 Austin, Texas 78759