Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site uiucuxc Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!bantz From: bantz@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Two AI software packages Message-ID: <28900016@uiucuxc> Date: Sun, 9-Feb-86 10:45:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucuxc.28900016 Posted: Sun Feb 9 10:45:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Feb-86 07:13:51 EST References: <842@aluxe.UUCP> Lines: 13 Nf-ID: #R:aluxe.UUCP:842:uiucuxc:28900016:000:725 Nf-From: uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU!bantz Feb 9 09:45:00 1986 [Response to Steven Wong, "AL bell labs" & reply of "friesen@psivax."] Both the initial request and the response seem to be unaware of the real purpose of "Eliza." Joseph Weizebaum (MIT) wrote this program to show that mere English-like responses which could, individually, be supposed to be in response to questions or comments of a human, did *not* constitute natural language understanding let alone "artificial intelligence." He took for granted that everyone would recognize that the program did *not* "understand" anything, or have anything remotely like intelligence. That eager students of AI took it for more does indeed, I think, show that the exercise had some real worth, even if only as a cautionary note.