Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site uiucuxc Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!bantz From: bantz@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Technology Review article Message-ID: <28900017@uiucuxc> Date: Sun, 9-Feb-86 11:05:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucuxc.28900017 Posted: Sun Feb 9 11:05:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Feb-86 07:14:04 EST References: <7500002@ada-uts> Lines: 17 Nf-ID: #R:ada-uts:7500002:uiucuxc:28900017:000:1011 Nf-From: uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU!bantz Feb 9 10:05:00 1986 Dreyfus's book "What Computers Can't Do" was a pretty sorry affair, insofar as it purported to have a positive argument about intrinsic limits of computers. However uncomfortable it makes the AI community feel, though, the journalistic baiting with extensive quotations from the AI community itself, ought to have demonstrated the virtues of a bit more humility than is often shown. [I'm refering to his gleeful quotation of predictions that, by 1970 or so a computer would be world chess champion, that fully literate translations of natural languages would be routine...] The responses here, so far, seem to be guilty of what Dreyfus is accused of: failing to engage the opponent seriously, and relying on personal expressions of distaste or ridicule. Specifically, Dreyfus does reject the typology of learning in AI, on the not implausible grounds that it is self-serving, and not obviously correct (or uniquely correct). [Please! I am *not* a fan of Dreyfus, and do not endorse most of his claims.]