Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!ukc!cstvax!hwcs!aimmi!gilbert From: gilbert@aimmi.UUCP (Gilbert Cockton) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Technology Review article Message-ID: <716@aimmi.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Feb-86 13:14:38 EST Article-I.D.: aimmi.716 Posted: Mon Feb 10 13:14:38 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Feb-86 06:12:35 EST References: <7500002@ada-uts.UUCP> <15030@rochester.UUCP> Reply-To: gilbert@aimmi.UUCP (Gilbert Cockton) Organization: Heriot-Watt/Strathclyde Alvey MMI Unit, Scotland Lines: 35 In article <15030@rochester.UUCP> lab@rochester.UUCP (Lab Manager(Brad Miller)) writes: >......... An appropriate rebuttal to these two self-styled >philosophers: >"In 3000 years, Philosophy has still not lived up to its promises and >there's no reason to think it ever will." Which is why I'm so sceptical about the grander claims for AI. I'm unable to see how having faster computers, smarter algorithms and fancier versions of LISP will allow us to crack problems that have dogged philosophers and others for centuries. I accept that IKBS techniques do allow a person or group to encode (some/most of/all) their expertise into an interactive program. However given the hard problems of ontology and epistemology, I cannot believe that the expertise's status as knowledge (as opposed to belief) and a representation of `reality' can ever be determined on line. The problems of philosophy remain problems of philosophy regardless of any new modes of communication and information encoding that can be developed. One can be ignorant of the distinction between recursion and iteration and still find gaping holes in much current AI research. Furthermore, one can pick up any basic philosophy text and find many accepted arguments which provide an education as to why these holes seem unclosable. Has any inductive system come up with a refutation of Hume's argument against induction? One example will do me! You can encode some of the people some of the time, but ... -- Gilbert Cockton, Alvey MMI Unit, Scotland USENET: ..(EUROPE)mcvax!ukc!cstvax!hwcs!aimmi!gilbert JANET: gilbert@uk.ac.hw.cs (aimmi not NRS registered yet) ARPA: gilbert%cs.hw.ac.uk@cs.ucl.ac.uk ( ditto ) DESERT ISLAND: disk in a green bottle marked GC