Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!rocksanne!sunybcs!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: net.analog Subject: Re: strobe oscillator Message-ID: <803@kitty.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Feb-86 22:07:30 EST Article-I.D.: kitty.803 Posted: Sun Feb 9 22:07:30 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Feb-86 07:30:23 EST References: <151@biomed.UUCP> Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 50 > Are there a few simple rules of thumb for designing an oscillator of > the type used for camera strobe flash units. The type I am talking about > typically use a "simple" transistor oscillator feeding a subminiature > transformer. > ... > HOW DO YOU 1) Easily determine the primary and secondary impedences of the > transformer you want. If you want to wind your own , say on a toroid > ferrite, how do you select wire gage and # of turns. > 2) How do you pick the frequency at which it will oscillate? > 3) How do you select capacitor values to start experimenting with? > 4) How do you insure that an oscillator like this will self-start and not > just sit there and pour DC into the transformer, ultimately burning out the > transistors? > What I am looking for are practical trade shortcuts and practices. > Please don't tell me to go read a text on oscillators. Reference to an old > magazine article would be nice. Thanks in advance. Some good references would be two books published by McGraw-Hill, authored by John Markus, and entitled "Sourcebook of Electronic Circuits" and "Electronic Circuits Manual" [the newer of the two books]. Both of these books will provide a few dozen representative circuits of photoflash units. Please note: while the circuits in these books are complete with component values, they should be used as examples, and NOT taken as gospel; the point being, THINK before you build it. I don't know of any simple way to explain the design procedure for such a circuit over the Net. Please don't take offense, but the questions which you ask indicate indicate a serious lack of circuit design knowledge, and they cannot be answered in a few words. The most critical item in building a photoflash supply is the transformer, which should be a toroid for small size. Most commercial photoflash units use a custom toroid which would not be readily available to you as an individual component. Based upon my comments in the above paragraph, I would suggest that you forget about winding your own toroid. However, you can obtain off-the-shelf toroidal transformers which will probably be okay (except for perhaps size, depending upon what you are trying to do). I would suggest Triad-Utrad, division of Litton, which many industrial electronic distributors stock. The Triad TY-series will give you about 2 dozen transformers to chose from, designed for input voltages ranging from 6 to 28 volts DC. I believe that Triad has some application design examples for use for their transformers. A proper photoflash power supply MUST be designed with the flash tube characteristics in mind, regarding: watt-second rating, recommended design voltage, self-ionization voltage, trigger voltage, etc. ==> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York <== ==> UUCP {decvax|dual|rocksanne|rocksvax|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <== ==> VOICE 716/741-9185 {rice|shell}!baylor!/ <== ==> FAX 716/741-9635 {G1, G2, G3 modes} duke!ethos!/ <== ==> seismo!/ <== ==> "Have you hugged your cat today?" ihnp4!/ <==