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From: tohaapanen@watrose.UUCP (Tom Haapanen)
Newsgroups: net.auto
Subject: Re: Diesels
Message-ID: <7789@watrose.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 30-Jan-86 11:47:36 EST
Article-I.D.: watrose.7789
Posted: Thu Jan 30 11:47:36 1986
Date-Received: Sat, 1-Feb-86 01:05:18 EST
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Reply-To: tohaapanen@watrose.UUCP (Tom Haapanen)
Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario
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Summary: 

In article <683@isrnix.UUCP> greg@isrnix.UUCP (Gregory Travis) writes:
>
>As far as I know Volvo does not make their own "ground up" 
>(as in "from the ground up", not as in "ground up meat") diesel.  The
>Volvo diesel is a modified VW/Audi diesel with either an extra cylinder
>tacked on (to make 6), or one removed (to make 4) (I can't remember).

You're correct in that Volvo does not make their own diesels.
However, it *is* a "ground up" diesel, and a completely different
block from the VW 4-cylinder and the Audi 5-cylinder.

The VW 4-cylinder has been around since 1974 or so, being first used
in the 1974 Passat (Dasher) as far as I recall.  The 1977 Audi 100 5E
(5000) added an extra cylinder to this block, and a few years later a
diesel version was introduced.  In any case, as I recall, the 1976
Golf D, which did *not* have a "ground up" diesel, provided much
better performance than any of the diesels on the market at the time.
Incidentally, VW also has a 3-cylinder prototype based on the same
block.

The 6-cylinder diesel, though, was designed to be a diesel.  It hhas
been used for almost a decade by Volvo, Peugeot and VW (the latter in
the LT ("Large Transporter") van.  I can't remember the specs but it's
not based on the 4-cylinder.

As to the future of these engines, VW's new Passat (Quantum) will use
a transverse engine, which makes it impossible to use a 5-cylinder
engine, so they will all be equipped with various types of 4-cylinder
engines.  Audi, on the other hand, is busy designing V6 and V8-engines
to be fitted into their entire line; looks like they, too, are moving
away from the 5-cylinder design.

				   \tom haapanen
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