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From: gmack@cisden.UUCP (Gregg Mackenzie)
Newsgroups: net.auto
Subject: Re: (Plymouth Superbird?)
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Date: Mon, 3-Feb-86 12:50:37 EST
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Posted: Mon Feb  3 12:50:37 1986
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An unknown author writes:
>>
>> The superbird didn't fare that well on the race circuit.  220 mph was great
>> on a track by itself, but the thing was pretty poor when it had to run in a 
>> pack of slower cars.  

I don't know what you're talking about.  In a race, why would anyone want to 
keep pace with slower cars?  I thought the idea was to cross the finish line 
first.  The Hemi Daytona did not perform *as well* at say highway speeds,
after all, it *was* a race car.  But the Superbird had a more refined version
of the Hemi and performed very well even on the street.  The best 'Bird model 
for street driving had the 440 Magnum with a 4bbl.  (We *are* talking overall,
general performance, now, and not just raw speed, right?)

In article <773@grkermi.UUCP> markm@grkermi.UUCP (Mark S. Miller) writes:
>
>Now, I'm a little rusty on my Mopar lore, but as I recall the
>SuperBird/Daytona dominated for the years they ran. In fact, they did
>so well that the Reg's were changed to stop them. As I recall a
>Superbird held the record at Daytona (200 something or other mph)
>until just a couple of years ago.

I don't have any info about records at Daytona, but I can tell you about
the Salt Flats.  

The last five World Land Speed Records for the B-Altered Coupe and Sedan 
sedan class were all set in Superbirds.  

	196.455	-- (I don't know when)
	207.241 -- 1978
	210.958 -- 1979
	211.081 -- 1981
	214.288 -- 1981 (still stands today)

These last two were set in the same week by Jim Frederick when he was 69
years old.  I'm not sure how the class is defined, but these are basically
street cars with gas engines...no supercharging and no turboing.  The 
speeds are averages, not tops, for two five mile runs. 

Gregg Mackenzie
cisden!gmack