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From: vuser@druhi.UUCP (GerardenC)
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Subject: first impressions : Mustang GT
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Date: Thu, 6-Feb-86 11:54:41 EST
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>From drutx!mtuxo!houxm!mhuxt!mhuxr!ulysses!burl!clyde!watmath!watnot!watrose!tohaapanen Wed Feb  5 22:08:27 1986
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>From: tohaapanen@watrose.UUCP (Tom Haapanen)
>Newsgroups: net.auto
>Subject: Re: First impressions: Mustang GT [long]
>Message-ID: <7806@watrose.UUCP>
>Date: Wed, 5-Feb-86 22:08:27 MST
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>Posted: Wed Feb  5 22:08:27 1986
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>Reply-To: tohaapanen@watrose.UUCP (Tom Haapanen)
>Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario
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>No flames, just a comparison...

NO COMPARISON , JUST FLAMES

>
>>1986 Mustang GT 3-door hatchback; silver exterior, red interior; A/C, premium
>>sound system, power windows, power door locks & convenience group, rear-window
>>defogger, tinted glass, sunroof (all options except two-tone paint, auto-trans,
>>and engine block heater); 5.0 L SFI V8 (sequential injection, tuned-intake,
>>true-dual low-restriction stainless steel tuned exhaust, EEC-IV control)
>>
>>Price: ~12,600 (base sticker ~10,500., sugg. price ~13,600)
>
>1986 VW GTI 3-door hatchback; red exterior, grey interior; sunroof,
>power steering, cruise control; 1.8L KE-Jetronic
>
>Price: ~8,800 (base 8,900, list 9,500)  [prices in US$]

HOW CAN YOU EVEN COMPARE A VW TO A REAL FORD

SURE,TRY AND BUY A NEW ONE FOR 9500.00
YOU CAN HARDLY FIND ONE WITHOUT ALL THE
OPTIONS ON IT
>
>>Mileage: Expect 17 typical.
>
>Mileage: After two weeks, trip computer says 8.8 L/100 km ~= 26 mpg (US).
>And that's driving hard.
>
>>Caveats: upshift light (hah!) doesn't work.
>
>Works on the GTI.  Using it, I managed to get 39 mpg (!) around town.
>At that point the pussyfooting is getting ridiculous though.

ALL YOU CAN DO IS PUSSYFOOT IN A VW
>
>>Overall impressions: unbelievable what 285 ft-lbs of torque can do in a
>>sub-compact.  Handling is a bit tail-happy; otherwise neutral.
>
>Subcompact!?!?  According to the EPA, the GTI is a *compact*.  The

THE GTI IS THE BIGGEST HUNK OF SHIT ON THE ROAD
DITTO FOR THE REGULAR RABBIT

>Mustang weighs probably 50% more, although it's true that it probably
>has a lot less interior room.  

>Two 6'1" adults sit comfortably in the
>back seat of the GTI.

SURE IF YOU HACK THEM INTO PIECES AND STUFF THE LIMBS INTO TRASH BAGS
>
>>Acceleration: 0-60 in 6.7 sec.
>
>Ah, well, ah, the GTI is only barely into the single digits...
BARELY??
>
>>..., premium unleaded, ...
>
>I didn't think that the Mustang's fuel injection could take advantage
>of higher octane ratings.  Am I wrong?  Or were you intending to
>advance your ignition timing?

THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT A RABBIT IS IT'S BOSCH CIS INJECTION.
>
>>Handling: Goodyear Eagles don't seem to be up to par with this car.  Back end
>>is too easy to cut loose around turns.  The lateral forces just build up
>>and give out all at once...
>
>The GTI is very contollable on the limits.  The Pirelli P600's

ONLY BECAUSE THE LIMITS ARE SO LOW 

>supplied with the car are very good, if not quite up to the standards
>of the Eagle VR 'S'.  But the weight of the car may have something to
>do with it too...
>
>>..(for you Wabbit owners who are more curious about this feeling...
>
>With my superior traction and lighter car, I could probably tie a new
WORK OUT THE MATH
>Mustang at a stoplight grand prix.  Check out the 0-40 mph acceleration


PROVIDED YOU COULD KEEP THE THING ON THE ROAD ?
DUE TO UNEQUAL DRIVESHAFT LENGTH THE TORQUE STEER ON RABBITS MAKE THEM
VERY UNSTABLE. 

>times...  The skidpad figures might make interesting reading too!

YOU SEEM TO BE INTO READING FIGURES AND NOT DRIVING. AS THE OWNER
OF A VW RABBIT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT IS THE WORST CAR I HAVE EVER OWNED.
A FRIEND OF MINE HAS 5 RABBITS INCLUDING A GTI. THEY ARE ALL CRAP.
THERE IS NO CONVINCING A RABBIT FREAK, THEY ALL THINK THAT A RABBIT IS
THE LAST WORD IN AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING. I DO NOT WANT TO ATTACK THE
RABBIT DRIVERS , ONLY THE CAR.
>
>>Steering: much tighter than any other power steering I've ever driven.  Makes
>>my T-bird feel like a boat.  Responds instantly.
>
>Try the GTI sometime.  Feels just like driving a non-assisted
TERMINAL UNDERSTEER , PERFECT CAR FOR A LITTLE OLD LADY.
>rack-and-pinion steering.
>
>				   \tom haapanen
>				   watmath!watrose!haapanen
>I'm all lost in the Supermarket
>I can no longer shop happily
>I came in here for that special offer
>Guaranteed personality				 (c) The Clash, 1979


ITS NOT A CAR , IT'S A VOLKSWAGON ( thank god)


				Chuck Gerarden
				ihnp4!drutx!druhi!vuser