Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!noao!terak!doug From: doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: No advances in GA plane designs? Message-ID: <1023@terak.UUCP> Date: Mon, 27-Jan-86 19:21:45 EST Article-I.D.: terak.1023 Posted: Mon Jan 27 19:21:45 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Feb-86 04:20:59 EST References: <1009@terak.UUCP> <502@ssc-vax.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Calcomp Display Products Division, Scottsdale, AZ, USA Lines: 33 > "twenty years ago" the "average American" was flying a Cessna 150, 172 or a > Cherokee 140/180. A number were flying the 150 and 172, but the Cherokees were brand new. Even so, the bulk of the planes at the time were tube-and-fabric taildraggers produced during the "boom years" of 1946 and 1947. > I see three impediments to General Aviation progress: Certification > costs, product liability, and manufacturer's inertia. Eliminate these > three items, and you have the homebuilt branch of general aviation. This argument presupposes that GA's progress has been impeded. I think that the record shows that it hasn't. > my original point holds true... other than avionics, you could take your > 1985 C-172 back in time to 1947 and any A&P would keep that airplane in > tiptop shape. No composites (except maybe wingtips, I don't know), no > Wankels, no aluminum block Buick V-8s. Same construction. Same engines. > Same controls. The only safety advantage is the nosewheel. Same engine? No way. The engine in the modern 172 is either the O-320 (for the Skyhawk) or the O-360 (for the Cutlass). Neither engine existed in 1947. The original (late '50s) 172 used the Continental O-300 (I think -- don't hold me to this). But my point is this: other than electronics, you could take your 1985 Ford back to 1947 and any backyard mechanic could keep it in tiptop shape. No composites, no Wankels, no aluminum block Buick V-8s. Same construction. Same engines (at least to the same degree that the 172's engine is the same). Same controls. The only safety advantages are those mandated by law. -- Doug Pardee -- CalComp -- {hardy,savax,seismo,decvax,ihnp4}!terak!doug