Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site mtuxo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!jrrt From: jrrt@mtuxo.UUCP (r.mitchell) Newsgroups: net.books Subject: Re: THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER by Tom Clancy Message-ID: <1263@mtuxo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-Jan-86 09:43:34 EST Article-I.D.: mtuxo.1263 Posted: Wed Jan 29 09:43:34 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 30-Jan-86 06:29:12 EST References: <1566@mtgzz.UUCP> <497@oliven.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 77 THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER by Tom Clancy A book review by Mark R. Leeper ...One almost feels sorry for the Soviets in this book as they are so thoroughly out-gunned and out-thought by the Americans that one wonders why they bother opposing the John-Wayne-like Americans at all. The Soviets *did* have a few aces in the hole, however -- which I refuse to spoil. Nevertheless I admit a certain disparity between technical levels. Whether or not this is accurate -- I suspect it might be, from other things I have heard -- I cannot swear, and I really didn't find this a detraction from my enjoyment of the book. -- Barb Jernighan First, a disclaimer. Everything I write is my own opinion and does not necessarily represent official Navy policy and opinion. Second, a declaration. I spent four years as a Weapons and Operations officer on a ballistic missile submarine. I maintain contacts with the sub community. Third, a caution. I really liked THFRO, enough that after reading a friend's copy, I purchased the book in hardcover. I'm biased. There *is* a clear disparity between the technical levels of the Russian Fleet and the American one, at least if one can believe the reports in generally-available documents like JANE'S, AVIATION WEEK AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY magazine, and so on. The difference might be exaggerated a bit in THFRO, for dramatic appeal, but not much. THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER is a good story and an enjoyable book to read. Mark R. Leeper I agree. After reading it, I went out and splurged on a bunch of other submarine-related fiction (THE GOLD CREW; RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP, etc). Clancy's book is by far and away the best-written of them all. His attention to detail isn't obtrusive, just convincing. That's all scenery, though, the best part of the book is the story. The broad scope and numerous characters do limit the amount of characterization somewhat. Perhaps I was reading things into the characters, by endowing them with characteristics of Navy people I know whom they resembled. Nonetheless, the book gives enough subtle information that I never felt the characters were cardboard. The best part of the book, though, was the suspense (what is Clancy up to...?), and the satisfying wrap-ups of each plotline. I'd give THE HUNT FOT RED OCTOBER at least 3 of -4-to-+4. P.S. Mark mentioned a shade of surprise that so much technical data was allowed. The original hardbound was published by the Naval Institute Press -- their second fiction in over 100 years. Oh? I was under the impression Clancy's was the first. What *was* the first fiction the NIP published? My personal theory, as all the information contained in the book *is* in the public domain -- though recently and not generally announced so -- was to defuse (obliquely) the Walker spy case. "If the technical information appears in a popular piece of fiction, it can't be *all* *that* sensitive." Perhaps this is better discussed in net.politics. For now, though, I'll mouth off here. The information isn't that recent, and although sub capabilities aren't generally topics of press conferences, articles in AW&ST, NEWSWEEK, and THE NEW YORK TIMES over the years have said just about anything Clancy did. Also, I don't agree with your theory. My personal understanding of Naval Security philosophy is that classified information is very highly regarded -- people's lives and American security are at risk -- so keeping classified material classified is a job taken seriously. *Technical* classified material is treated even more gingerly than *political* classified material. Besides, although I don't know the publishing industry well, wouldn't the lead-times required for publishing a novel, suggest Clancy wrote it all before the Walker case broke? Rob Mitchell {allegra,ihnp4}!mtuxo!jrrt Es un entreverado loco, lleno de lucidos intervalos. (He is a muddled fool, full of lucid intervals. *Don Quixote*)