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From: kayvan@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU (Kayvan Aghaiepour)
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Subject: Re: Re: Trash Student Government?
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Date: Tue, 28-Jan-86 05:43:08 EST
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Posted: Tue Jan 28 05:43:08 1986
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>
>	You liberals make me laugh!  All you you talk about are  the
>	supposed evils of the Reagan/Bush and El Salvador.  This Ad-
>	ministration has done more good for this country than any in
>	the  past  two decades, and I don't think it has been at the
>	expense of your "human values" either.  Your  general  atti-
>	tude  in  the  above article implies a significant misunder-
>	standing on your part.
>

Oh, boy. I don't think I should start in on this, seeing the sort
of person I'm up against, but I sure will try to present a rational
point of view.

Firstly, I want to know what these supposed misunderstandings were?
Reagan's administration is certainly supporting death squads in
El Salvador, and Contras in Nicaragua.

The human values that are being violated in each case are those that
I hope (though I certainly don't expect) you share. Is it not
obvious to you, when many thousands of people are "disappeared"
in El Salvador, that this is wrong? Of course not.
How about when Reagan's "Freedom Fighters" attack entire villages
of women and children? Of course the women and children were supporters
of the evil Marxist regime of Nicaragua, so they deserved to die,
right??

>	I try hard to keep an "open mind", but  have  problems  with
>	such  "cry-baby"  thinking.   I  am  relieved that I chose a
>	University with a right-wing majority (in fact we are  proud
>	of having very few liberals here), but we certainly let  our
>	liberal brothers hold their demonstrations,  have  speakers,
>	etc.  with  out  wasting  our time on pointless heckling and
>	harrassment.

If you made the smallest attempt at keeping an open mind you would
not be praising the actions of the present administration.

The same "cry-baby" thinking is what stopped the Viet Nam war. I suppose,
though, that in your mind, that too was a mistake. America should
have gone on bombing civilian villages, sending off her own children
to die, and gone on waging the senseless war. We liberals might make
you laugh, but you just plain make me sick. Your warped logic and
your self righteous attitude are what weakens this country, not
liberal thinking.

>
>	I'm certain Mr. Bush is a god, and  the  next  president  of
>	these tremendously supreme United States of America.
>	
>                              -- Roger Bly Jr.
>                                 University of Calif. at San Diego
>                                 home of the "California Review"

Well, Roger, more power to you. You can go on worshipping Mr. Bush
and Mr. Reagan. You can go on parroting the administration's propaganda.
You can go on believing that your way is the only right way and
your way of life is the only "free" life.

I, on the other hand, will do my own thinking. I don't worship any
man as a god, although there are a few whose deeds I admire. I will
not be swept by the blinding patriotism which seems to afflict you.
These "tremendously supreme United States" suffer most from the closed
minded attitude portrayed in your message.

				---Kayvan
				Kayvan Aghaiepour at Berkeley
				home of "The People's World"

P.S. I hope your posting was a joke. If so, it was in extremely bad taste.