Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.columbia Subject: Re: SRB vs liquid Message-ID: <6380@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Feb-86 20:46:46 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.6380 Posted: Sat Feb 8 20:46:46 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Feb-86 20:46:46 EST References: <615@uwvax.UUCP>, <1759@jhunix.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 36 > ...[Liquid fuels] can be unstable > at room temperature, require high pressure/low temps to stay liquid, > and in general are a pain to handle. Solid fuel, on the other hand, > is easy to handle, stable, and generally nontoxic... Don't forget that liquid fuels can be loaded on the pad. NASA used to have an iron-clad rule saying "no fuel in the VAB" [Vertical Assembly Building, since renamed Vehicle Assembly Building]. They were not happy about the shuttle SRBs for this reason. Solid fuel is only *relatively* stable and easy to handle. It remains a fire and explosion hazard. KSC tours used to include the inside of the VAB, but not any more; in fact most non-VAB NASA employees aren't allowed in. > As for the asssertion that SRBs were used because of budget constraints, > I remember shuttle descriptions included SRBs even in the early 70s > when the shuttle was being conceived. Look back a little further and you'll see liquid-fueled boosters. The solids have lower performance, are only semi-reusable, and are not nearly as controllable in flight. NASA almost used a developed Saturn V first stage with wings (the "flyback F-1") as the shuttle booster, but its projected development costs were slightly too high. > At that time, the Air Force > was installing solid fueled Minuteman missiles, and their solid fuel > rockets were considered the state of the propulsion art, making liquid > fueled Titans obsolete. For military applications, requiring years of waiting with minimal or no regular attention, and lightning response to a "launch" command. This is very different from space launches! The USAF wants to keep its ICBMs fully fueled at all times, which greatly changes the safety tradeoffs, and the performance penalty was less significant. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry