Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!nbires!boulder!cisden!lmc From: lmc@cisden.UUCP (Lyle McElhaney) Newsgroups: net.columbia Subject: Re: SRB vs liquid Message-ID: <485@cisden.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Feb-86 13:45:35 EST Article-I.D.: cisden.485 Posted: Fri Feb 7 13:45:35 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Feb-86 06:15:14 EST References: <615@uwvax.UUCP> Organization: ConTel Information Systems, Denver Lines: 59 > On the news last night (McNeal, Leherer (sp)) two gentlemen > were disagreeing on the safty of a SRB vs. liquid fuel rocket. It > was implied that due to NASA budget restrictions, SRBs were used > when liquid fuel was better/safer. > > Whats the scoop on this? Is there any truth to it? There are several good reasons for using SRB's rather than liquid fueled rockets for the shuttle. The safety factors aside (its very hard to proove anything pro/con there) take a look at the shuttle itself. 75% of the liftoff weight is liquid fuel, used in the most complex and effecient large engines ever made, that represent a large percentage of the cost of both the orbiter and the maintenence/operations budgets. However, at the moment of liftoff, these liquid rockets develop less than 10% of the total thrust requirements of the shuttle; the rest comes from the SRB's. There are several problems with solids; how can you turn them off (you can't, you can only destroy them or let them run out), you can't control closely the thrust developed, they are polluting (compared to the liquids rockets in the shuttle, anyway). But they do deliver, powerfully, reliably, and cheaply. A few other comments about stuff I've read in a marathon session here: The SRBs are slightly maneuverable, are blown away from the ET after separation (after burn-out) by small rockets, and then return to the water on three of the largest parachute systems ever made (I think that the parachute package in the nose of each SRB weighs ~5 tons). Each is filled with a mixture containing aluminum, a latex-like compound, and a perchloride oxidizer. This mixture burns steadily in the open, nothing violent, until it is burned under high pressure. The burning surface of the solid fuel runs nearly the entire length of the SRB, burning from the center outwards toward the shell. The destruct device on each SRB is an externally mounted strip running the length of the SRB on each side, designed to split the casing into two parts lengthwise upon use, thereby destroying both the SRB's aerodynamics (such as it is) and dropping the internal pressure drastically throughout the rocket, effectively killing the thrust of any remaining fuel (which will continue burning). The top one-third of the external tank is a liquid oxygen tank; the bottom two thirds is for liquid hydrogen. Two 17 inch pipes, one from each tank, exit the body of the ET at the bottom of each tank, travel externally down the side of the tank, and then enter the body of the shuttle near the engine pod. This is the *only* source of fuel for the three large rockets; after jettisoning the ET, they are of no use. After jettison, the ET disintegrates in the atmosphere over the Indian Ocean, not reused. There have been studies concerning what it would take to deliver the tank to orbit, for any of several uses. All the other rockets on board the orbiter use hypergolic fuels, which are dangerous (as spelled out here in great detail) but are ideal for use in vacuum; they don't need to be ignited, or forced under pressure, or kept *cold*. Starting and stopping such rockets is simple. The hypergolics aren't as poisonous as many organic poisons, but are very caustic. Challenger was carrying the second tracking and data relay satellite (TDRS), and the Colorado University's Spartan Halley satellite; not Galileo or the telescope. Lyle McElhaney ...hao!contel!lmc