Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site sdcsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!jc From: jc@sdcsvax.UUCP (John Cornelius) Newsgroups: net.info-terms Subject: Re: Wyse "magic cookies" Message-ID: <1374@sdcsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Feb-86 11:16:31 EST Article-I.D.: sdcsvax.1374 Posted: Mon Feb 3 11:16:31 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Feb-86 01:51:45 EST References: <312@uw-june> <120@ucdavis.UUCP> Reply-To: jc@sdcsvax.UUCP (John Cornelius) Distribution: net Organization: Western Scientific, San Diego Lines: 22 Keywords: Cheap glitz Summary: First Class is worth it! The reason terminals have magic cookies is because the internal character size is insufficient to hold data about video attributes. Terminals without magic cookies typically have 4 or 5 extra bits in the internal character representation. Each bit indicates the state of 1 video attribute for that character only. Terminals with magic cookies may have 1 bit which indicates that the current character sets video attributes and the character contents itself gives the video attributes. Video attributes remain effective until another such character is encountered. Since there is a 1:1 mapping of data bytes (in memory) to screen position the effect of a backspace following a set attribute command is often described by the manufacturer as unknown. Magic cookies allow the manufacturer to hype a large number of video attributes and make his terminal look glitzy while keeping the terminal cheap to design and manufacture. The manufacturing cost savings are enormous, about $10.00, when compared to the total manufacturing cost of the terminal, about $140.00 to $200 for most ascii terminals. A true VT-200 emulating ANSII terminal (no magic cookie) costs $180.00 POE West Coast to bring to market. An ADM-3 look alike costs about $140.00 to bring to market under the same conditions. The $40.00 difference means about $120.00 by the time it gets to the end user. John Cornelius Western Scientific