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From: gsmith@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Gene Ward Smith)
Newsgroups: net.jokes.d
Subject: Re: YAWJ
Message-ID: <11724@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Date: Thu, 6-Feb-86 05:13:53 EST
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Posted: Thu Feb  6 05:13:53 1986
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Keywords: yet another Woolley joke

In article <11686@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@brahms.UUCP (Matthew P. Wiener) writes:
>In article <361@cisden.UUCP> john@cisden.UUCP (John Woolley) writes:
>>Scene: a men's room.  There's a guy in one of the stalls.  Another guy
>>comes in, occupies himself.
>>
[ etc. etc. with rabid homophobic "humor"]
>>				Peace and Good!,
>>				      Fr. John Woolley
>
>I cannot *believe* this homophobic "joke".  What are we supposed to
>make of this gay bathroom prostitution?  I certainly fail to see any
>humor, and find this propagating of hateful stereotypes extremely
>offensive.
>
>Please, if Catholics must go on bashing gays, do so in the privacy
>of your own churches, not on the net!
>
>ucbvax!brahms!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720



  Apparantly some out there in net-land havn't got Mr. Weemba's messaage.
Allthough the rampant bigotry in Fr. Woolley's so-called "joke" is obvious,
I thought a few comparisons would make it clear just what is so odious here.

First an extremly mild, non-offensive joke:

This is for all of you admirers of the Catholic Church.

Did you hear that the Pope has declared AIDS a miracle?

It turns fruits into vegetables.

  Another, slightly offensive joke which also turned up recently:

How do you sit four gay's on a barstool?

An. Turn the stool over.

  I think the difference is clear. (There was also a Rock Hudson 
necrophilic Aids joke which was so innocent it was hardly even funny).
Now look at Woolley's "joke". The offensivness is in its cleverly concealed
homophobia, which is just like the concealed misogyny in his previous "joke".
If you compare that "joke" with the tender sweetness of some of the other
jokes involving women on the net, you will see what is so different and
especially offensive about it.

ucbvax!brahms!gsmith    Gene Ward Smith/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720
ucbvax!weyl!gsmith      "When Ubizmo talks, people listen."