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From: gsmith@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Gene Ward Smith)
Newsgroups: net.jokes.d
Subject: More rape discussion
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Date: Tue, 11-Feb-86 09:58:10 EST
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  Those of you that think the "rape joke" (so-called) discussion has
been funny here, should look at some of the artices on net.women which
were not cross-posted. What follows are the choicest excerpts:

On the rape joke: if anyone reads this newsgroup they would know
that rape is an act of violence, not sex. So the "joke" doesn't even
make sense. People have already gone over the other reasons it is
offensive. [Trudy Leonard]

	Tim, why not post your article to net.jokes.d?  They could
use some enlightenment (apparently quite a bit).
		<_Jym_> [Jym Dyer]

her career instead of expecting the reverse are wimps, a joke degrading rape
victims as prostitutes who didn't get paid, a sanctimonious diatribe against
[Eric McColm]

	I would like to reply in my own defense that I do not think that
my signature line about sending men to the moon was in any way comparable 
to the rather tasteless and certainly tactless joke of "Fr. Woolley"'s
that was re-posted to this news group. While my signature line most
definitely implied that a woman might be happier in the absence of men,
it did not denigrate or derogate them in the way that the joke about
the "girl" who was a prostitute (yes, Kenn, I "got" it) did women. In
fact, it was not even so strong a comment as Ralph Kramden's threat
to send Alice "to the moon" - he was talking about wife-beating, for those
of you who may have missed it. It seems that a number of the more juvenile
(male) readers used this as an opportunity to seize upon to poke fun at
the women contributors.
[Jody Patilla]

	My problem with the joke is that it refers to *all* men.
"Why not send *all* men to the moon?"  It denies our rights as
individuals based on our sex.  It is inherently sexist.
[Jym Dyer]

ucbvax!brahms!gsmith    Gene Ward Smith/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720
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