Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site kestrel.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!glacier!kestrel!ladkin From: ladkin@kestrel.ARPA Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Relative Number Theory Message-ID: <4666@kestrel.ARPA> Date: Fri, 7-Feb-86 20:02:47 EST Article-I.D.: kestrel.4666 Posted: Fri Feb 7 20:02:47 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Feb-86 03:57:26 EST References: <2314@umcp-cs.UUCP> <2232@pyuxd.UUCP> <2393@umcp-cs.UUCP> <11727@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 14 In article <11727@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, weemba@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Matthew P. Wiener) writes: > > My guess is that N(a) is Peano Arithmetic + induction on well-orderings of > type less than a. The proof strength does grow (like a step function) as > you increase a among the recursive ordinals. For example, if e=epsilon_0, > ie, the limit of w,w^w,w^w^w,w^w^w^w,... (where w=omega), then N(e) is, by > Gentzen's theorem, able to prove the consistency of PA. > That sounds reasonable, but notice Adams wanted N(a) for ANY ordinal a. Your interpretation doesn't address 0mega-1 Church Kleene and above, since these well-orders aren't in N, and have to be added somehow. Peter Ladkin