Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!brahms!totaro From: totaro@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Burt Totaro) Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: White's problems Message-ID: <11818@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 11-Feb-86 22:48:37 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.11818 Posted: Tue Feb 11 22:48:37 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Feb-86 01:02:45 EST Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: totaro@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Burt Totaro) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 26 This note gives a counterexample to a problem proposed by Sam White on net.math. The problem was: Let M(n) be the algebra of n x n matrices over a field. Let V be a linear subspace of M(n) consisting entirely of nilpotent matrices. (A matrix A is nilpotent if A^m = 0 for some integer m.) Show that V cannot generate M(n) as a ring. For the counterexample, take the field to be the real or complex numbers, and let V be spanned by the following two matrices: 0 0 0 0 1 0 A = 1 0 0 B = 0 0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 One finds that any matrix C which is a linear combination of these two satisfies C^3=0, and hence is nilpotent. However, if you write out the matrices 1,AB,BA; A,AA,AAB; B,BB,BBA; then you will see that the first three span the diagonal matrices, the second three span the lower triangular ones, etc. That is, V generates the ring of 3x3 matrices. The problem was originally intended to help answer the question: Given a linear subspace which generates the algebra M(n), can we find upper and lower bounds for the number of multiplications we need to do to get the whole algebra? That is, in the above example we needed only products of at most three elements of the subspace (BBA, for instance.) As far as I know, this broader question is still wide open.