Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site well.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!well!farren From: farren@well.UUCP (Mike Farren) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Re: Re: COMSPEC ... Warning: Somewhat commercial Message-ID: <575@well.UUCP> Date: Thu, 30-Jan-86 22:31:17 EST Article-I.D.: well.575 Posted: Thu Jan 30 22:31:17 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Feb-86 06:44:56 EST References: <1099@ecsvax.UUCP> <11403@watnot.UUCP> <550@well.UUCP> <199@intelca.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Whole Earth Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 34 In article <199@intelca.UUCP>, cem@intelca.UUCP (Chuck McManis) writes: > > Let's see... 2Meg = 72 256K rams @ $2.50 each - 180.00 > > Support chips (liberal) - 40.00 > > PC board and case - 25.00 > > for a total of $245 manufacturing cost. Given a 3 to 1 markup (not > > atypical) that's a cost of about $750 that I would expect to see. $1500 > > for 2Meg with current chip costs is a rip-off! > > Mike, consider the area they are trying to put the 72 ram chips into, > assuming it fits along the side of the Amiga we are talking some Dense > circuity. This in turn would suggest a multilayer board (say 8) and > some very expensive CAD time. If my experience with building PCBs is > any guide they are probably looking at $300 - $600 *per* bare PC board. First: the area along the side of the Amiga is about 4 X 12 inches. This is plenty of room for 72 RAMS - a larger area than the IBM PC standard layout for cards. Second: I don't know where you have been buying your boards. Those prices seem much more typical of the mil-spec market than they do of the commercial market. > I also notice you didn't mention the cost of assembly (was that part of > the 3:1 markup?) which would be significant. I would guess these boards > cost *them* $750, if not more. Submitted for your approval: the Tall Tree JRAM boards, which cost about $150 unstuffed, and feature a full 2M of ram. With chips, and at retail, approximately $600. This is about where I expect a 2M RAM card to be priced. Add a little more 'cause of market uncertainty of the Amiga market, but you STILL come out at considerably under $1000... -- Mike Farren uucp: {your favorite backbone site}!hplabs!well!farren Fido: Sci-Fido, Fidonode 125/84, (415)655-0667