Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site 3comvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!idi!oliveb!3comvax!mykes From: mykes@3comvax.UUCP (Mike Schwartz) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga OS Message-ID: <392@3comvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 1-Feb-86 01:23:19 EST Article-I.D.: 3comvax.392 Posted: Sat Feb 1 01:23:19 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Feb-86 04:46:54 EST References: <11448@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <142@atux01.UUCP> <357@ccivax.UUCP> Reply-To: mykes@3comvax.UUCP (Mike Schwartz) Organization: 3Com Corp; Mountain View, CA Lines: 30 Just a quick thought: How many lines of Unix code does it take to do any of the following: 1. open a window with any of the standard Unix gadgets? 2. translate and narrate a block of text? 3. animate and move objects around on the screen? 4. birth a new cli (shell) task in it's own window? 5. any Intuition function (icons, drawers, etc.)? 6. generate fonts on the screen? The point I am trying to make is that it probably takes as much code to implement the Amiga OS as it does Unix. Unix has had many years and many programmers to develop it to the point of refinement (that's the best I can say for it, text only is boring to me). OS-9 may have been a better choice than AmigaDos (or TRIPOS or whatever), but it was not chosen and it's too bad. If OS-9 ever makes it to the Amiga, it better work with all the programs everyone has been writing, or I (and maybe a few others) won't go near it. I like intuition a lot, and I am glad that Amiga chose to give us primitive routines to build libraries around instead of some real high- level limited-function interface. Have any of you Unix freaks ever seen the AT&T Unix PC? It seems to me that it is all you have been asking for. I think it is remarkably like the Amiga, with it's windows and C-Shells running in them. And it uses the mouse, and has hi-res screen and has a few gadgets, etc. It also runs UNIX native, connects to mainframes well, runs all the Unix programs you have become comfortable with over the years. It has a 68000 and comes with a hard disk. It is VERY IMPRESSIVE to me, to say the least, although I still like the Amiga better because of the software.