Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site sunybcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!sunybcs!ugjohna From: ugjohna@sunybcs.UUCP (John Arrasjid) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga,net.micro.atari Subject: Re: New Atari Toy Computer Message-ID: <2794@sunybcs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-Jan-86 15:07:17 EST Article-I.D.: sunybcs.2794 Posted: Wed Jan 29 15:07:17 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 31-Jan-86 23:53:15 EST References: <37@sbcs.UUCP> <402@tekig5.UUCP> <1302@sdcsvax.UUCP> <635@ark.UUCP> Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science Lines: 74 Xref: watmath net.micro.amiga:1761 net.micro.atari:2614 Summary: Software off the Shelf... <355@3comvax.UUCP> <279@ism780c.UUCP> <374@3comvax.UUCP> Sender: John Arrasjid Reply-To: ugjohna@sunybcs.BITNET Distribution: net Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science In article <374@3comvax.UUCP> mykes@3comvax.UUCP (Mike Schwartz) writes: >By the way, (no offense intended) it seems to me that the people who ae >so pro ST like to exercise the left half of their brains while the pro >Amiga people exercise the right half. To the left-half people, monochrome >text in high resolution is appealing. To the right-half people, high-resolution >color, speech, audio, etc. is appealing. To each his own, but as a right >brainer, I have a monochrome hi-res (640x400) AT&T PC to satisfy my left >brain, and an Amiga, Commodore 64, and Atari 800 to satisfy my right. What????? Who says that the st doesn't have hi-res color?? 640 x 200 in hi res with 512 colors isn't?? The IBM does 320 by 200 with 16 colors. No speech synthesis??? If an Atari 8bit machine and a commodore 64 machine can do speech synthesis through software with a program called SAM, then who is to say the ST won't be able to do it yet. Besides, I think the speech synthesis on the Amiga sounds alot like that produced by SAM (maybe that company created the software for the amiga's sound synth.). No audio??? Well, granted it only has 3 voices but if you listen to the music produced by the programs Barraticus and Sundog, you'll realize that the quality is fantastic!! Besides, a professional musician wouldn't, I assume, hook his computer to a microphone to play music!!! They'd use a midi interface (built in on the ST and extra cost on the Amiga). Now...... I have been in all the computer stores in the Buffalo and Erie county computer stores. I have seen a total of 5 different Amiga programs: 4 games by Electronic Arts, and one graphics program. I have seen no less than 90 commercial ST programs on dealers shelves. For the benefit of ST users, I would like to list them here: Business: VIP Professional, How to write Business Letters, How to write your own Will, Letter Processor, Typesetter ST, Haba Write, Hippo Simple, Chat, ST-Talk, Antic Color Sprite Editor, Degas (graphics arts), Final Word, a midi program (can't remember the name), Hippo Rolodex, Hippo Checkbook Balancer. Languages: Hippo C, Modula-2, OSS Personal Pascal, Michtron Forth, Dragon Group Forth. Operating Systems: TOS (GEM), OS-9 68K, BOS, Micro C shell. Utilities: Michtron Ramdisk, Michtron Printer Spooler, Michtron BBS, Hippo Ramdisk, Hippo Spooler, Micronomist Disk Analyser. Entertainment: Mom and Me, Murray and Me, Barraticus, Sundog, Infocom line of Interactive fiction, Kings Quest II, Ultima II, Hippo Jokes and Quotes, Crimson Manor, Perry Mason, Mudpies, Hex, Alien Adventure Hacker, Borrowed Time, Hippo Almanac. Educational: Typing Tutor, Winnie The Pooh in the 100 acre wood, Mathbusters - Homework Helper, Word Forth (crosswords), Maps and Legends (Antic), Cartographer. (not to mention that Spinnaker plans on releasing its complete line of educational software) Public Domain Software: ----------------------- Printer Spooler, Ramdisk, Assembler, pop up calculator, Megaroids, Dragon Forth Demo Disk (working subset of Forth), Degas Graphics Slide show, Neo Chrome slide show, Breakout in TOS, etc... etc... These are actual programs that I have seen on the shelf!! Most of them I have already seen demonstrated. The software programs are in the same price range as most 8 bit computer software --> $25 to $40. I have seen a list of close to 400 programs that are supposed to be available, but I cannot vouch as to their availability. I'll post a list of new software every few weeks or so to keep people up to date. John Arrasjid SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science BITNET: ugjohna@sunybcs