Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site vax135.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!nabi From: nabi@vax135.UUCP (Nabi Rafie) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Mac: The Past, The Present, and the Future Message-ID: <1291@vax135.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Feb-86 21:21:27 EST Article-I.D.: vax135.1291 Posted: Thu Feb 6 21:21:27 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Feb-86 04:46:59 EST References: <1282@vax135.UUCP> <11450@watnot.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 36 The Apple that is swinging back into shape now, is doing so because of the Mac and its creators, not beaue of any vision of their own. Also, I didn't put down the LISA dream, I did say (more than once I think) that the LISA is many years ahead of its time. What I probably should have said is that the LISA was aimed at the wrong market perhaps. If the LISA were successful, the Mac might not have ever been born ! The need for an affordable version of the LISA gave rise to the Mac. Now that everybody has a Mac, Apple is slowly increasing Mac's power, and it seems like they are going back towards full LISA technology. Perhaps they should have done that in the first place. Maybe now we wouldn't have all this headaches associated with the new Mac+ and upgrading the Macs and LISAs. The LISA was Apple's big shot at the business end of the market. If it had been successful, they wouldn't have withdrawn the LISAs. It is obvious that people are looking for bold imagination, new ideas and exciting products from Apple, not the same old archaic MS-DOS garbage that IBM promotes. I think Apple's products are (light) years ahead of its competitors (i.e. IBM) but the business people still buy the IBM stuff because of the name, NOT the product. If Apple were consistent and held their place in the market as the creators of visionary ideas, and kept providing good service and reliability, they would eventually enter other markets, not by force, but by the market's needs. I'm an electronics engineer and I need to interface to computers in order to accomplish certain tasks. Would I be able to easily interface other electronic equipment to my Mac as easily as I could to an IBM or a clone ? The LISA does have 3 slots in the back which one could use, but Apple has dropped the LISA line. The Mac wasn't designed for lab work I guess. You are then more or less stuck with an IBM PC and the pain of MS-DOS. For those who don't care about ports and what not, the Mac is perfect. Hopefully next year Apple will introduce their more serious micro with a 68020, FP coprocessor, color, etc etc. But then that can be considered the next generation LISA technology ! Happy mousing ! nabi