Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ll-xn!mit-amt!gerber From: gerber@mit-amt.MIT.EDU (Andrew S. Gerber) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Gays and stereotypes. (A relativly young perspective) Message-ID: <83@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 12-Feb-86 19:16:07 EST Article-I.D.: mit-amt.83 Posted: Wed Feb 12 19:16:07 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Feb-86 06:27:26 EST Reply-To: gerber@mit-amt.UUCP Followup-To: net.motss Organization: MIT Media Lab Lines: 58 I've been reading with some interest the lastest postings on gays and sterotypes. I think a lot of things in the gay community are changing now like they have never changed before. The changes I am thinking of are not changes becasue of AIDS, but becasue of the tolerence of gays that has started in the last 15 years. Here at MIT we have an on-campus gay student group called GAMIT, for Gays at MIT. Although I am not currently as active in the group as I once was, I have been exposed to many students from various colleges around the country, and heard much about gay student groups around the country. None of these gay student groups were around 20 years ago. GAMIT started as the "Student Homophile League" about 15 years ago. That was relativly early, compared to other school's student groups, many which have only been around for the last five or so years. What I am trying to get to get to here is the early acceptance of homosexuality. Yes, there are plenty of effeminate people around the Boston college groups. But there are plenty of completly normal acting ones. It's amazing when new people show up at a gay stuednt group - many of them ALREADY act effemiate before they 'come out'. Many others never act effeminate. A few latch onto the 'dishing' etc., and grow more effeminate as time goes on. I sincerly believe that as homosexuality is more accepted, and the traditional sterotypes melt away, so will the effeminate gay men. Of the many young gay men I know (17-23 yrs old), only about 1/4 of them would I say "act gay". Not that there's anything wrong with acting gay. Some people use it as a personal identity - for others, they fall in with a bunch of gay friends who all act effeminate and will follw suit. When I first came out, I was amazed by the number of guys who I met were effemniate. My gut reaction always was "I'm gay becasue I like men -- not men who act like women". Unfortunatly, it's the straight acting homosexual who is never counted - the news programs miss him, he finds a lover, and vanishes somewhere in the suburbs. (See the New York Times, 2/11/86, front page, second section) I'd like to go twenty years in the future and see what people's stereotype of a homosexual is. AIDS will change things, promescuity is out. Friends are in. Safe sex is in. I never thought I'd have my father asking me if I was using condoms..... What do you think the future holds? Of your friends, how many are effemniate? How many act straight? Andy -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Andrew S. Gerber MIT '87 Systems Manager, Visible Language Workshop | | gerber@mit-amt.MIT.EDU, gerber@mit-mc.lcs.mit.edu | | UUCP: decvax!mit-eddie!mit-amt!gerber decvax!mit-eddie}mit-athena!gerber | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+