Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!ut-sally!utastro!ethan From: ethan@utastro.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: A Thought Experiment (Supernova) Message-ID: <335@utastro.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Feb-86 17:35:52 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.335 Posted: Tue Feb 4 17:35:52 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Feb-86 21:20:24 EST References: <2026@teddy.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 44 Summary: General Relativity in the weak field limit In article <2026@teddy.UUCP>, srk@teddy.UUCP writes: > > Assume there are two stars, A and B, of equal mass. They are close enough to > have significant gravitational attraction, but far enough apart that it takes > light a week or two to travel from one to the other. They are not in mutual > orbit but are approaching each other head on. > > Star B undergoes supernova - a substantial part of its mass is converted to > energy and radiated away (at least let's assume it's substantial). It is a > fast supernova, and it is all over before any light from the event reaches > star A. > > At a safe distance, equidistant from both A and B, is an observer who decides > to measure these two stars immediately after the light from the supernova > passes his planet (he was watching a soap opera at the time...). He measures > the mass and acceleration of both stars. > > What will he see? > The gravitational field will propagate changes in its structure at the speed of light. To do this problem in gory detail would require GR, but we can simply use a modified form of Newton's law in which the field disturbances propagate at the speed of light to get a rough idea of what goes on. If the distribution of mass and radiation around star B remains spherically symmetric then the perceived gravitational field due to B will be the mass and *energy* interior to the position of the observer. Once the radiation (and other ejecta) start to pass the radius of the observer then she will perceive a drop in the gravitational force due to B. Assuming A is farther away than she is, she will notice that A is reacting to more mass than she is and will conclude (correctly) that there is a distribution of energy/mass surrounding B a significant amount of which is between the radius of the observer and the radial distance to A. After some time the acceleration of A will drop and she will conclude (correctly) that the ejected mass and radiation has continued to move outward. -- "These are not the opinions Ethan Vishniac of the administration of {charm,ut-sally,ut-ngp,noao}!utastro!ethan the University of Texas, ethan@astro.UTEXAS.EDU but they are the opinions Department of Astronomy of your favorite deity, who University of Texas is in daily communication with me on this (and every other) topic.