Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: The use of nonviolence. Message-ID: <1073@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-Jan-86 14:25:47 EST Article-I.D.: mmintl.1073 Posted: Thu Jan 23 14:25:47 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Feb-86 10:35:46 EST References: <566@decwrl.DEC.COM> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 23 In article <566@decwrl.DEC.COM> mahoney@bach.DEC writes: > I agree in the use of civil disobedience. Two of my heroes happen to be >Martin Luther King and Gandhi but I have a serious question that I do not know >the answer. How do you fight a government that does not mind killing people? > >The British for the most part were civilised and were not going to wipe >out the population or even try to. The allowed constraints on themselves >and thus had "weaknesses" that could be used against them. The same in the US >with the civil rights movement the violence got bad and some people did die >but the government did not openly condone it. The courts also did their >best to stop such violence. I would like to emphasize this point. I think the success of King and Gandhi says very positive things about modern American and British society. Civil disobedience in Russia today is in most cases quite useless -- unless you are already famous, the government quietly locks you up and no one ever hears of it. What value there is in the tactic is only because of foreign pressure. Civil disobedience is preferable to violence if it works, but it only works against fundamentally decent opponents. Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108