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From: mr@homxb.UUCP (mark)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Israeli torture? (NY Times)
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Date: Tue, 4-Feb-86 14:25:00 EST
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Posted: Tue Feb  4 14:25:00 1986
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> Nidhal Guessoum writes:
> >     2) "Torture of Arab prisoners is so widespread and
> >  systematic that it can not be dismissed as "rogue cops" exceeding
> >  orders. It appears to be sanctioned as deliberate policy."
> >                      The Sunday Times - June 19, 1977
>   
> I think an important issue like this deserves more elaboration. The following
> are also quotes from the same source:
>  
> 1. "The practices we have examined have occured throughout the 10 years of
>     Israeli occupation (of the West Bank). There is no reason to believe it has
>     ceased." 
>       
> 2. "Prisoners are often hooded or blindfolded or hung by their wrists for long
>     periods. Many are sexually assaulted. Others are given electric shocks or
>     assaulted with dogs. At least one detention centre has (or had) a specially
>     constructed "cupboard" about two feet square and five feet high with
>     concrete spikes set in the floor."
>       
> 3. "All Israel's intelligence services are implicated and it is implausible
>     that knowledge of these practices is confined to the interrogators."

The statements above have never been proven conclusively.
       
The NY Times is not necessarily all truthful. Or, perhaps their sources are
wrong or lying ??
       
> Is it reasonable to say that this kind of environment contributes to Palestinian
> terrorism? Is it reasonable to say that torture is another kind of terrorism?
>   
> A question to Nidhal: Do you know of more recent sources on this? Is torture
> being used in the west bank today?
>  
> A quote from chaim Weitzmann, Israel's first president:
> "I am certain that the world will judge the jewish state by what it shall do
>  with the Arabs."
> 					       Farzin Mokhtarian
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Humans are born crying. When they are tired of crying, they die."

mark
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