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From: mahoney@bach.DEC
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Subject: Re: Re: Israeli torture? (NY Times)
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Date: Thu, 6-Feb-86 11:20:50 EST
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---------------------Reply to mail dated 4-FEB-1986 19:25---------------------

>Posted by: decwrl!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!homxb!mr
>Organization: AT&T - homxb!mr
> 
>>   
>> I think an important issue like this deserves more elaboration. The following
>> are also quotes from the same source:
>>  
>> 1. "The practices we have examined have occured throughout the 10 years of
>>     Israeli occupation (of the West Bank). There is no reason to believe it has
>>     ceased." 
>>       
>> 2. "Prisoners are often hooded or blindfolded or hung by their wrists for long
>>     periods. Many are sexually assaulted. Others are given electric shocks or
>>     assaulted with dogs. At least one detention centre has (or had) a specially
>>     constructed "cupboard" about two feet square and five feet high with
>>     concrete spikes set in the floor."
>>       
>> 3. "All Israel's intelligence services are implicated and it is implausible
>>     that knowledge of these practices is confined to the interrogators."
> 
>The statements above have never been proven conclusively.
>       
>The NY Times is not necessarily all truthful. Or, perhaps their sources are
>wrong or lying ??
>       
> 
>mark
>homxb!mr

I am not saying that this did or did not happen I don't know.  It is pretty
ridiculous to say a source is lying is lied to or whatever though.  It seems in
this group escpecially when the attack is against Isreal that a certain
group of poeple come out to destroy whatever is said.  Listen Isreal is
not perfect and has probably done things wrong.  The US has and so have most
countries in the world.  There are people who  make mistakes and abuse power
no matter where they are. Don't just ignore a story because it is negative
if this happened then I am sure the proper authorities will take care of
it. They may not come out in public and say anything but something will be 
done.  If this happened there are also problems that may need to be dealt
with.  To just ignore or brush it off because it is negative is wrong and
is short-sighted.

Brian Mahoney