Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site uokvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!okstate.UUCP!uokvax.UUCP!cdrigney From: cdrigney@uokvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <5000172@uokvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Feb-86 21:08:00 EST Article-I.D.: uokvax.5000172 Posted: Wed Feb 5 21:08:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Feb-86 22:06:26 EST References: <516@whuts.UUCP> Lines: 76 Nf-ID: #R:whuts.UUCP:516:uokvax.UUCP:5000172:000:3536 Nf-From: uokvax.UUCP!cdrigney Feb 5 20:08:00 1986 > indicates Sevener's reply >> From Matt Rosenblatt: >> A few questions for Mr. Sevener: I hope you don't mind if I answer this one as well, Matt. >> 1. When the Germans sliced through Russia (and France) in >> World War II, how did German manpower (active and reserve) >> compare with Soviet and French/British manpower? Was it >> numerical superiority of men that won battles for the >> Germans, or numerical (and technical) superiority of >> weapons, mainly tanks? > I believe it was predominantly a matter of Germany's swift and > adept use of the latest technology at the time (namely tanks) > coupled with weak Russian resistance. Use based on books that had been available since the 30's (in particular, B.H. Liddell-Hart's _On Strategy_) and ideas that had been around since the 20's. No one but the Germans paid attention to these ideas for highly mobile warfare, and even they were very relunctant to adopt them. The astounding victories of Guderian and his ilk would have been far faster and more thorough if the General staff had not been so unwilling to encompass the new ideas. The ONLY reason anyone was evacuated at Dunkirk, for example, was that Hitler ordered Guderian to halt just short of it - he got there before the retreating BEF did. In the invasion of Russia, Moscow would have fallen the first year, if Guderian had been given fuel. Instead Hitler got distracted by the Caucasus, and the German forces were drawn into the deathtrap at Stalingrad. Germany's forces were *extremely* tiny at that time, even compared to France. The Russians outnumbered them on the order of 10 to 1, even at the beginning. I doubt there was any battle on the Eastern Front that Germany had numerical superiority in. They *destroyed* over 300 divisions in the opening months of the war, and were *still* outnumbered. A major reason for the weakness of Russian defense was the lack of experienced commanders, Stalin having slaughtered most of them in the Great Purge. Another reason was the hatred of the USSR troops for the Russian regime. In particular, the Ukraineans deserted wholesale, and would have willingly joined the Germans in marching on Moscow had they been given the chance. If anything this hatred is even greater today. German tanks were technically superior to Russian tanks; that was one of their major drawbacks. > One notes that the tiny island of England did much better in > holding out under conditions of regular V-2 raids. This primarily demonstrates the bankruptcy of strategic bombing to break civilian morale, a concept that has never proved itself. Were it not for an unfortunate (err, I mean fortunate) mistake on the part of the Luftwaffe's bombers, Germany would've been bombing useful targets, instead of wasting its time and resources (desparately needed on the Eastern Front) terrorizing civilians. > I don't suppose that Russia's morale is vastly improved. There's a world of difference between defending the Motherland and invading someone else. The only thing more dismal than Russian morale is Russian discipline - see _The Threat_ or better still _Inside the Soviet Army_ for details. I'll answer the other questions in a later posting if I find time, but bean-counting isn't really important anyway - it's just easy to do. There's a publication that gives the overall armament for every country in the world, but I don't recall its name at the moment - I'll post it when I find out. --Carl Rigney USENET: {ihnp4,allegra!cbosgd}!okstate!uokvax!cdrigney