Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site psuvax1.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!berman From: berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Politics and Ethics--Socialism, Message-ID: <1997@psuvax1.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Feb-86 17:34:52 EST Article-I.D.: psuvax1.1997 Posted: Mon Feb 10 17:34:52 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Feb-86 00:42:52 EST References: <486@whuts.UUCP> <101500008@uiucdcs> <902@cybvax0.UUCP> <411@ubvax.UUCP> <923@cybvax0.UUCP> <428@ubvax.UUCP> Organization: Pennsylvania State Univ. Lines: 26 > .......... > As far as effective democracy goes, the US seems to me an overbuilt > economic and bureaucratic dinosaur in contrast. A cult of national > destiny and leadership plus economic abandonment masked as laissez > faire theory isn't democratic, it's just indolent. And the direction > of a resurgent militarized US isn't democratic either. > > Western European nations may be a little slower, but they know that > no democratic society would vote for economic growth by wage cuts, > which is what the "democratic" US has "voted" for as its great plan > of economic recovery ????? > > Tony Wuersch Tony is exagerating. For example, Italians voted (i.e. government encouraged unions to vote that way) to relax the mechanism of "scala mobile", which in US means COLA, to increase Italian competetiveness and so to restore economic growth. This is nothing else but growth by wage cuts. I admit that in the long run the idea is absurd: growth should increase individual wealth, not decrease. But in the short run it may mean a necessary correction. (This is at least what Italians seemed to believe.) Piotr Berman