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From: David.Black@A.CS.CMU.EDU
Newsgroups: net.railroad
Subject: LIRR details
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Date: Thu, 23-Jan-86 18:31:58 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan 23 18:31:58 1986
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1.  All seats in the new M1 cars are fixed.

2.  LIRR trains are 'double headed' in name only.  (Actually I prefer
	the term 'push-pull' for one engine on each end of the train;
	'double headed' has always meant two engines on the same end
	to me.)  If a LIRR train appears to have engines on both ends,
	one of them is almost certaintly a gutted control cab.  (i.e.
	controls and cab, but no engines, no transformer, no traction motors)
	LIRR converted a lot of Alco FA's to control cabs; does anyone
	know what if any other locomotive models ever received this
	treatment?

Point of trivia:  30th street station in Phila. was originally supposed
to have a reversing loop or loops south of the station so trains bound
from New York to Harrisburgh/points west could use the station and loop back
up to Zoo (tower/junction) to pick up the main line to Harrisburgh.
These loops were scrapped when the union station plan (PRR, RDG, B&O)
for Phila. fell through.  [Yes, 30th street was originally supposed to
be a union station; when built it was entirely the Pennsy's.]

--Dave