Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site convexs Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!convexs!mcmullen From: mcmullen@convexs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.railroad Subject: Re: More on turning trains and electifi Message-ID: <8500001@convexs> Date: Mon, 27-Jan-86 15:59:00 EST Article-I.D.: convexs.8500001 Posted: Mon Jan 27 15:59:00 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 30-Jan-86 05:39:57 EST References: <695@decwrl.DEC.COM> Lines: 40 Nf-ID: #R:decwrl.DEC.COM:695:convexs:8500001:000:1813 Nf-From: convexs.UUCP!mcmullen Jan 27 14:59:00 1986 /* Written 10:47 am Jan 24, 1986 by alcock@csse32.DEC in convexs:net.railroad */ /* ---------- "More on turning trains and electifi" ---------- */In GCT (Grand Central Terminal) there is a loop around the lower level summer and was an ALL PARLOR car train! >Electification: There are two qualifications to your comments on this topic. 1. The Harlem Division of NEW YORK MetroRail (I think it is formally called MetroNorth (?), I think, has been electrified (third-rail) from North White Plains to Brewster. I read in the NYT that there is not enough juice (it 600V dc, remember) to power newer, faster coaches on the extension. 2. Northern Pacific, now Burlington Northern abandoned electrification on its Great Falls-Tacoma division in 1974. Farewell, Little Joes! >Tunnel?! Did I leave out any other special electifications? Yes, you left out the robots. Specifically, the Black Mesa and ??? that runs for about 110 miles in Arizona. It is a unit train that delivers coal to a power plant on the shores of Lake Powell. BTW, this is 60 Hz 50KVA setup. A smaller robot is located in East Texas, near Pittsburg TX. Like the Black Mesa it delivers coal (actually lignite) to a power plant. Its right-of-way crosses over I30. It too, is 60 Hz 50KVA setup, supplied by GE. These are the only robots I know of directly. I think there are some older less technically advanced robots in the various open pit copper mine throughout the Rockies. However, I don't know If these are robots are not. Jim Mc Mullen Convex Computer Richardson, Texas UUCP: allegra@convex