Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihlpf!ccalille From: ccalille@ihlpf.UUCP (Calille) Newsgroups: net.rec.nude Subject: Re: Nude Models Message-ID: <305@ihlpf.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Feb-86 17:52:12 EST Article-I.D.: ihlpf.305 Posted: Wed Feb 5 17:52:12 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Feb-86 06:14:26 EST References: <80@ubc-vision.UUCP> <471@hoptoad.uucp> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 37 > In article <80@ubc-vision.UUCP> majka@ubc-vision.UUCP (Marc Majka) writes: > > ...I was objecting to what I see as exploitive and degrading, not > >to someone posing in the nude. In my judgement, there is a difference in > >kind between an art class and "swank" magazine. > > Yes, there's the rub. ``In *your* judgement''. ``What *I* see''. But other > people find nude beaches exploitive and degrading. And other people don't > find SWANK magazine degrading. Now, maybe I missed something here, but I > thought the whole focus of ``the Naturalist movement'' was ``we're here > voluntarily, we're free people, leave us alone to do what we want''. Now I > am getting a hint of ``we are morally superior people, we have better attitudes > than those repressed prudes, and a much better attitude than those who read > or pose for filthy magazines''. > > If the second position is closer to the Naturalist philosophy, then somebody > had better set the record straight. There are a whole lot of > libertarians and rational anarchists who are buying into it because they > believe in the first position -- and to use them to further the second > position is pretty foul. I hadn't considered the possibility that I was > being used last time I posted, and thought that you were being terribly > inconsistent, which is why I accused you of sitting on the fence. > > Now, it would be stupid of me to take Marc Majka's personal position as the > official position of the Naturalist movement without checking it out further. > What do the rest of you think? And are there any official positions I > could look up? > -- > Laura Creighton > ihnp4!hoptoad!laura > hoptoad!laura@lll-crg.arpa Hey, where can you meet some good looking models in the Chicago area. Or is there a nude beach in this area that I can visit to see what it is actually like. If you are a good looking FEMALE maybe we can meet in the Chicago area.