Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.14 $; site siemens.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!petrus!scherzo!allegra!princeton!siemens!jar From: jar@siemens.UUCP Newsgroups: net.rec.nude Subject: Re: Nude Models Wanted Message-ID: <83200001@siemens.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Feb-86 15:04:00 EST Article-I.D.: siemens.83200001 Posted: Fri Feb 7 15:04:00 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Feb-86 07:29:37 EST References: <371@tekigm2.UUCP> Lines: 34 Nf-ID: #R:tekigm2:-37100:siemens:83200001:000:1645 Nf-From: siemens!jar Feb 7 15:04:00 1986 After following this discussion for a while I have to throw my two cents in: In Germany we have public pools in most of the townships. Depending on the size of the township you can find 1000 to 15000 in such a place on a hot summerday. Although nudity could be found earlier there was a breakthrough in 84. Now you can find nude people at all these places. Thre was a discussion in the beginning about that and officials tried not to allow it, but it calmed down and it is quite normal at least in the big cities like munich, but also in every town with 100000+ inhabitants. In more country like areas people prefer to wear their bathing suits. Most of these people are younger than about 30 years and I'm not sure whether nudity in public swimming pools will be sth. normal or it was just "in". Anyway, there were some pictures in the papers, TV spent some seconds in their news and nobody felt offended (at least nobody I know). Just one thing at the end about the original posting: I have the impression that everything which is old enough is considered art, I'm not sure whether Rubens or Michelangelo painted nudes just for getting some publicity. In music for example we know that Mozart composed the music just to earn some money and it's now considered art. Nobody considers pop musicians as real artists although they perform the music for the same reason as Mozart did, they just live in another century. (Sorry I'm not very famous with Picasso, Dali, etc. therefore an example from music). Juergen A. Reimann Research & Technologie Lab. Siemens 105 College Road East Princeton NJ 08540 (609) 734-6527 ihnp4!adrvax!siemens!jar