Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles - hp 1.2 08/01/83; site hp-pcd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!hp-pcd!kas From: kas@hp-pcd.UUCP (kas) Newsgroups: net.rec.skydive Subject: Re: Way off Message-ID: <41800059@hpcvlo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-Jan-86 16:13:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpcvlo.41800059 Posted: Fri Jan 31 16:13:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Feb-86 03:27:52 EST References: <69@valid.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Corvallis, OR Lines: 45 Nf-ID: #R:valid:-6900:hpcvlo:41800059:000:2977 Nf-From: hpcvlo!kas Jan 31 13:13:00 1986 I can't offer any real advice on spotting the airport, but I think that after you've made a few more jumps and had an opportunity to view the airport from a variety of different angles, it will become easier to find. Just start to memorize major landmarks in the region which are easy to spot from the air. An anecdote: When I first moved to this state (OR) I had already been skydiving for several years, and consider myself to be an accomplished spotter. I got good at it because I got tired of having other people spot me halfway into the next county. Anyway, when I went to the local DZ, I let other people spot because I didn't know the area yet. On one load, though, I somehow got "volunteered" to do the spotting (because I was near the door, I guess). When we got to altitude, I looked out the door -- and the airport was nowhere in sight. I looked at the pilot quizzically and shook my head saying, "where the hell are we?" He kept saying we were right over the airport, but I couldn't find it at all! The pilot had us on jumprun, and wondered why nobody was climbing out yet. I kept telling him I still didn't see the airport, and I'll be damned if I'm getting out until I do. Well, he finally banked the plane sharply and pointed down and behind the airplane. Sure enough, there it was, about a mile behind us! I told the pilot to do a 180 degree turn, which he did, and we all piled out on a downwind jumprun (which I compensated for, of course). The pilot was mad at me for the rest of the day, thinking I was some sort of jerk. From that experience, I learned to find the airport by first locating a huge log pile next to a lumber mill. The airport is next to it, but is rather hard to see from higher altitudes because it is very small and has a narrow dirt runway. As far as the winds aloft, you will very often find that the upper winds are going different directions than the ground winds. That is why it is important to open the parachute at about the same altitude that the wind drift indicator was dropped (typically 2500-3000 feet). The more you deviate from that, the more error you will encounter. If you are doing static-line jumps from 4000 ft, your jumpmaster should have dropped a WDI from 4000 ft. When you start making delayed free-falls, the jumpmaster will put you out at an appropriate altitude such that you will (should) open at about 3000 ft. Many times I have seen students who are supposed to make a 10-sec free-fall pull the ripcord after only 4 or 5 seconds. This puts them into "uncharted" territory, and they're lucky if they don't run into some funny winds on the way down. Soooo...when you start those free-falls, try not to get pull-happy. * / \ |---/---\---| Ken Scofield C-9355 | Gone | Hewlett-Packard PCD | Jumpin' | Corvallis, OR |-----------| {ucbvax!hplabs, harpo, ogcvax}!hp-pcd!kas