Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site mtuxo.UUCP
Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!hfavr
From: hfavr@mtuxo.UUCP (a.reed)
Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.jewish
Subject: Bob Brown's new attack on Jews
Message-ID: <1286@mtuxo.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 3-Feb-86 18:53:37 EST
Article-I.D.: mtuxo.1286
Posted: Mon Feb  3 18:53:37 1986
Date-Received: Thu, 6-Feb-86 21:49:18 EST
References: <3201@sun.uucp> <2078@akgua.UUCP>
Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Holmdel NJ
Lines: 30
Xref: lsuc net.religion:697 net.religion.jewish:1811

> We don't even have to go to the USSR to talk the Holocaust revisited.
> I'm sure some of the 15 million babies we have conveniently aborted
> in the U.S. since Roe v. Wade (1-22-73) were being carried by Jewish
> women.  Their culture got stamped out before it even started...
> 
> Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb}

As a son of survivors, Mr. Brown, I find your attempt to trivialize the
Holocaust, in which my older brother, all my grandparents and
great-grandparents, and too many other relatives to count, were murdered
by militant bigots, offensive and uncalled for. I am disgusted by your
practice of posting your bigotry to net.religion.jewish.

For your information, the Holocaust has to do with the murder of a living
Jewish *soul or mind (nefesh)*. In the Jewish tradition, a newborn is
not considered a nefesh until he or she has lived the prescribed number
of days on earth. As Jews, we do not mourn fully for a spent sperm, an
unfertilized egg, an embryo, or even a newborn who has not lived long
enough to acquire a mind.

If a Jewish woman's life is endangered by a pregnancy, she has not
merely a right but a positive religious obligation to undergo an
abortion. Rabbinical interpretations of what constitutes relevant
danger to a woman's life differ in different Jewish traditions, so the
woman should ask her own Rabbi for his judgement about the specific
case. However, the suggestion that a non-Jewish political majority
should determine under what conditions a Jewish woman can (or cannot)
fulfill her obligations is pure bigotry. Please keep it out of
net.religion.jewish.
			Adam Reed (ihnp4!npois!adam)