Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ttidcc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!linus!philabs!ttidca!ttidcc!hollombe From: hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) Newsgroups: net.women,net.singles Subject: Re: Beach harassment Message-ID: <118@ttidcc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 27-Jan-86 20:18:12 EST Article-I.D.: ttidcc.118 Posted: Mon Jan 27 20:18:12 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 30-Jan-86 06:24:40 EST References: <8342@ucla-cs.ARPA> <2581@sdcrdcf.UUCP> <255@birtch.UUCP> <1167@homxb.UUCP> Reply-To: hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) Organization: The Cat Factory Lines: 63 Xref: watmath net.women:8541 net.singles:10068 Summary: In article <1167@homxb.UUCP> joey@homxb.UUCP (joey) writes: >The strings that some women wear on the beach nowadays >only do one thing...tease This is the second article of this general nature I've seen posted recently. Since others have already posted appropriate flames in reply I thought I'd have a try at analyzing the underlying attitude implied. Perhaps the original posters can gain some insights while recovering in the burn ward. Come, let us reason together ... It's been my experience that very few women deliberately set out to tease and frustrate men for the fun of it. When a man feels teased it's usually because a woman isn't responding to him in the manner _he_ thinks she should. The logic seems to run something to the effect of "I'm sexually attracted to you {for whatever reason}, therefore you are obligated to fulfill my fantasy.". There's also some ego-protection going on in the form of "There's nothing wrong with me, so your rejection of me must be an act designed to tease.". Reasoning like the above can lead an otherwise intelligent man to conclude he's being teased because an attractive woman is wearing beach attire at the beach. I've learned to avoid the pain and frustration of these fallacies by keeping one simple principle in mind: _Any_ woman has the right to say "NO" and mean it _any time she wants to_ and _need not justify_ her reasons for doing so. Period. Paragraph. Any man who refuses to accept and honor this principle is no better than a common rapist. If a man thinks he's been or being teased he has a perfect right to leave the situation and have nothing further to do with the woman in question. He _does not_ have _any_ right to force his attentions on her or in any way try to make her behave as he thinks she should. Now a thought experiment for the male readers: Imagine you are 5'2" tall and weigh 100 lbs. You are an attractive man and dress accordingly. While sunning on the beach, in your bikini swim suit, a 6'4", 200 lb. homosexual man walks up and tries to pick you up. You politely decline but he refuses to leave and begins to show signs of irritation at your continued rejections. He finally leaves in a huff, and half an hour later the same thing happens with a different man. This goes on all the time you're at the beach, every time your at the beach. Ladies: Is the above a fair analogy? [Note: The above is in no way intended to represent the behavior of gay men as a group or any particular individual.] -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe) Citicorp(+)TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Geniuses are people so lazy they Santa Monica, CA 90405 do everything right the first time. (213) 450-9111, ext. 2483 {philabs,randvax,trwrb,vortex}!ttidca!ttidcc!hollombe