Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site decwrl.DEC.COM Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-tonto!early From: early@tonto.DEC (the higher we climb, the better the view) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: re: re: programmer title (opinion) Message-ID: <898@decwrl.DEC.COM> Date: Tue, 4-Feb-86 11:02:38 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.898 Posted: Tue Feb 4 11:02:38 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Feb-86 08:36:09 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 41 Subject: re: the "programmer" title >call themselves this week). They advertise "Be a *COMPUTER PROGRAMMER* in >6 months!". > So the reason I don't say "programmer" is that I fear that someone >will think I dropped out of high school, couldn't find a job, so I went to >"COMPUTER TRAINING INSTITUTE" for 6 months, and... voila! Can anybody I think this poor reasoning for denying the reality of a title. If one were to take this title to its maximum extreme (or just an extreme), we'd all be denying our personal titles because there are charlatans out there who try to 'con' people with the concept of a title, rather than be a true representative of the title. I spent many years 'wanting' to be a programmer, until I learned that 'real programmers' are really called 'system analysts'. Then along comes the "architectural software engineers', and after that are the 'theoretical topological artificial intelligence .....' and so forth. I've done programming, and I've done engineering, and I've taken care of home, hearth, and changed crappy diapers BEFORE 'pampers' were invented. 'TITLES' are a bunch of bunk !, except for the nerds who need them. There are so many 'gray scales' that go with a title that the title is almost meaningless. We have had good Presidents, and bad Presidents. The perception of the worth of a president isn't on the title given, but rather our image of the person that it represents. I think the same is true for a 'Programmer'. The first programmer I knew was graduated from Harvard University 'cum laude', and was the 'darling' of the insurance company I worked at. His position was envied by many. He did 'coding', but on the Univac II (Vacuum tubes and patchboards)! Gracefully yours, The_Imperial_nondragon_Engineer_programmer_person_hiker_Man :^) Bob