Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!space From: mcgeer%ji@UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU (Rick McGeer) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Future of the Space Program Message-ID: <8601292357.AA21194@ji.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 29-Jan-86 18:57:58 EST Article-I.D.: ji.8601292357.AA21194 Posted: Wed Jan 29 18:57:58 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Feb-86 02:50:53 EST Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 35 > >> - What kind of escape mechanism (if any) does the shuttle have for the crew? > >At that point, the only escape mechanism was to detach the orbiter from >the fuel tank and hope it doesn't blow up before you get away. I'll >add that if they had been able to get away but had to ditch in the ocean >they still would probably have died; the shuttle decelerates from 190 >knots to zero in 100 yards when ditched and the TDRS would probably have >smashed through the cabin. That escape mechanism would only have worked if the external tank exploded first. As far as I know, it's pretty much even money that an internal tank went. > >> - Might this redirect (to some extent) the focus of the manned space >> program away from the shuttle (large, complex) back toward simpler or >> alternative launch systems? > >It will certainly deflect satellite launching back to unmanned >expendable vehicles (mainly Ariane). The disaster has probably soured >DOD permanently on the shuttle, so DOD may push for a small TAV. >France will go ahead with Hermes, which is smaller and simpler, >consisting of a small spaceplane on top of an Ariane-5 launcher. Couple of points. First, the Planetary Scientists have already been banging away on getting rid of manned spaceflight (the argument runs: "neither our missions nor satellite launches require men, hence no worthwhile missions require men, hence we should use only unmanned spaceflight"; the breathtaking arrogance of this has always amazed me). Second, at least one Pentagon official said yesterday that that DoD launches from Vandenberg would probably resume *sooner* than Kennedy's civilian launches, since (I presume) the USAF has a higher risk tolerance than NASA. -- Rick.