Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!space From: dsmith@HPLABSC (David Smith) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Future of the Space Program Message-ID: <8601292328.AA16795@hplabsc> Date: Wed, 29-Jan-86 18:28:40 EST Article-I.D.: hplabsc.8601292328.AA16795 Posted: Wed Jan 29 18:28:40 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Feb-86 02:51:41 EST Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 49 > - What kind of escape mechanism (if any) does the shuttle have for the crew? None. Columbia had ejection seats for the first test flights, but this happened too fast for ejection seats. Explosions like this were the reason for the escape towers on Mercury and Apollo. The escape tower saved two Soviet cosmonauts from a launcher explosion in 1983, although they had extended hospital stays. > - Might this redirect (to some extent) the focus of the manned space > program away from the shuttle (large, complex) back toward simpler or > alternative launch systems? It astounded me that the orbiter and ET were completely obliterated, while the SRBs flew out of the fireball apparently intact. This suggests that ths SRB-X proposal might produce a good, reliable launcher (for unmanned payloads). SRB-X consists of two SRBs side by side for a first stage, with one SRB on top as the second stage. While solid propellant is more expensive than LH/LOX, a savings would come from not launching the weight of the manned compartment when the mission does not otherwise need to be manned. Manned launches could be via transatmospheric vehicle, which would be much smaller than the current Shuttle, not carrying the heavy cargo and (explosive) propellant for the cargo. Being air breathing through the atmospheric boost phase, it wouldn't have so much LOX to tangle with its LH. Manned missions requiring heavy equipment would use orbital rendezvous. About the press: I am still surprised at how imperceptive the newscasters were. They played the tapes over and over in slow motion, pointing out that the fire started between the orbiter and ET at about the forward attachment point. Finally they discovered the earlier fire at the rear of the tank. These were said to be two separate fires. By Tuesday night, Rather was saying that the fires may have been breaches of the left (nearer) SRB, in spite of the fact that the SRBs didn't have any flame out their sides after emerging from the fireball. The V-2 was solid fueled. Etc., etc. Here's what I think. There was a leak in the hydrogen tank or its connections, as evidenced by the cloud that gathered around the base of the tank unnoticed by newscasters. The short-lived flame plumes near the closer SRB were ignited in the cloud of hydrogen by the rocket exhaust. Perhaps they went out for lack of atmospheric oxygen: the SSME exhaust is hydrogen rich. But before long, the cloud really caught; the fire spread around the back side of the tank (as seen from the camera) to appear between the tank and the orbiter. By this time, more hydrogen was coming out of the tank. The fire climbed the oxygen line to the oxygen tank. The explosion which ripped the vehicle apart was centered at the join between the O2 and H2 tanks. David Smith hplabs!dsmith dsmith%hp-labs@csnet-relay