Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!chuq From: chuq@sun.uucp (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Columbia Replacement Message-ID: <3203@sun.uucp> Date: Thu, 30-Jan-86 15:20:48 EST Article-I.D.: sun.3203 Posted: Thu Jan 30 15:20:48 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Feb-86 05:06:49 EST References: <860129202758.780479@HI-MULTICS.ARPA> Organization: Third Person, Omniscient Lines: 54 > Given that the shuttle program will continue, how will the program deal > with a decline in their orbiter inventory? I can see three > possibilities. > (1) NASA will not replace the Columbia, and will simply fly fewer > missions with the remaining shuttles. I don't think the military (not to mention anyone else) would like this. With major payload competition from France (among others) and the shuttles already booked solid, they can't really afford this option unless the US is willing to give up space dominance. > (2) NASA will have Rockwell build another shuttle. This will take some > time (and a lot of money), but would restore the 4th shuttle. (Some > have said that there are already a substantial number of spare parts, so > that everything wouldn't have to be done from scratch.) the cost figure I've heard is 1.1 billion, and about a year (I think). That is before any re-engineering needed to prevent whatever caused the loss of the Challenger. > (3) NASA will have Rockwell refit the Enterprise to make it fully > operational. Nobody has mentioned this one. Is it even possible? I > don't know how far the Enterprise is from being an operational orbiter, > instead of a boiler plate shuttle replica. Anybody have any ideas? It is not possible. Enterprise, being first, was more a mockup than a real orbiter and is significantly heavier than the production schedules. They would have to significantly reduce payloads to orbit it, and I'm not really sure if it was ever certified as spaceworthy. There is a couple of possible options that weren't mentioned: (4) Sell the shuttles to Boeing, since they have been trying to buy them for about 5 years, and turn space into a commercial venture. Make all non-military space operations work in the public sector, perhaps with government help to some degree. (5) Take a closer look at what is being sent in the shuttle as payload, and redirect stuff that doesn't need human care to unmanned (Titan or equivalent) rocket launches -- do we really need a crew of seven to ship out sattelites? One problem I've seen at Nasa is that because of budgetary problems they've put all of their eggs in the shuttle basket. Perhaps now is the time to lobbty for a REAL budget and use men where men are neccessary and robots where robots are acceptable. A lot of payload that could have been shipped on Titan boosters was sent in the shuttle to justify the shuttles existence, and it is probably time to rethink that. -- :From catacombs of Castle Tarot: Chuq Von Rospach sun!chuq@decwrl.DEC.COM {hplabs,ihnp4,nsc,pyramid}!sun!chuq FidoNet: 125/84 My uncle told me all of this. It must be true, because I know my uncle, and he is as honest as me.