Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site riccb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihopa!riccb!rjnoe From: rjnoe@riccb.UUCP (Roger J. Noe) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Remotely Controlled Manipulators in Space Message-ID: <622@riccb.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Feb-86 18:09:01 EST Article-I.D.: riccb.622 Posted: Tue Feb 4 18:09:01 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Feb-86 05:27:59 EST References: <8602020218.AA04732@s1-b.arpa> Organization: Rockwell International - Downers Grove, IL Lines: 41 In article <8602020218.AA04732@s1-b.arpa> Paul Dietz writes: > The problem with using [remote manipulators] in space is the > nonnegligible feedback delay imposed by the speed of light . . . Well, that's ONE of the myriad problems. What about maintenance and repair of the machines? Or ordinary servicing, including refueling (if any)? Another minor problem [sarcasm] is the design and realization of these machines. Certainly we should be able to replace humans with teleoperators in every dangerous "mundane" occupation (e.g. coal miner, test pilot, saturation deep-sea diver, fire fighter, police officer, cat bather, and inner-city school teacher to name just a few) long before we'll be able to create teleoperators that function even in low Earth orbit. I guess it'll be a while before we even see such things happening on the surface of the Earth, much less in space. > . . . a "seed" manufacturing facility . . . could be put in place . . . > The facility would be capable of reproducing itself . . . What, you just drop it on the lunar surface and it installs itself? That would be multiplying the complexity of the thing considerably. And of course you build in a Junior Alchemy set so that it can transform lunar soil into titanium. Oh, not impossible maybe, but certainly a couple centuries into the future. And many quadrillions of dollars. > . . . it probably would be more efficient (and safer) for the human > to be close (< .05 light seconds) to the manipulator (and inside a > habitat) than for the human to be in a space suit. No argument there, but it does pose some technological challenges in the areas of dexterity, adaptability, etc. > This research would probably be the single most important near term > contribution a computer scientist/roboticist could make to the space > program. You have a rather elongated definition of "near term." How about a computer scientist becoming an astronaut to understand better what needs to be done with data management systems to better assist people in space? That's my goal. -- Roger Noe ihnp4!riccb!rjnoe