Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Antimatter as Rocket Fuel, SETI, US Electricity Production Message-ID: <6368@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Feb-86 14:40:00 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.6368 Posted: Thu Feb 6 14:40:00 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Feb-86 14:40:00 EST References: <8602031417.AA08852@s1-b.arpa>, <6366@utzoo.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 29 > I think the US energy consumption in 1940 was somewhat larger than you > say... Sigh, it is blush-and-packpedal time... I badly misremembered a discussion that wasn't very quantitative to begin with. But as I mentioned earlier, this only changes the time scales a bit. US power generation in 1940 was, if I've got the conversion factors right (a pox on people who cite power generation in Btus!), about 19 GW. That is, about half the power output of a Saturn V, or about the same output as a Shuttle just after booster separation. The discussion I was originally thinking of was referring to 1920, not 1940. 1920 power generation was under 2 GW, although I don't have precise numbers back that far. Fifty years of that would be, by modern standards (a big modern power plant is circa 2 GW), a handful of power plants running for a handful of years. Not a lot for a serious purpose like starflight. Volume production of solar power satellites could quite easily give a major starflight project several hundred gigawatts to work with. Not cheap, but not utterly impractical either. Our neophyte civilization, which has had electrical technology for only about a century and serious science and technology of ANY kind for only a few centuries, is fairly close to having terawatt quantities of power available for big important projects. Arguing the impossibility of starflight on the basis of energy demands simply is not realistic, especially if we are discussing more advanced civilizations. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry