Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!cmcl2!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Phase Conjugate telescope Message-ID: <1126@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-Jan-86 18:17:43 EST Article-I.D.: mmintl.1126 Posted: Fri Jan 31 18:17:43 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Feb-86 20:16:47 EST References: <8601272039.AA01149@s1-b.arpa> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 33 In article <8601272039.AA01149@s1-b.arpa> ST401385%BROWNVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA writes: > >Why won't the phase conjugation technique work in reverse > >to build a large earth based telescope that removes the effects > >of atmospheric turbulence ... could make the Space Telescope > >obsolete. > > I've been thinking about this, and I can't think of a good way to >make it work. There are two problems. First, as far as I know (but >I'm not an expert by any means) phase conjugation only works on >monochromatic, coherent light (or at least light that is very nearly >so). More worrisome, though, is the fact that phase conjugation >doesn't remove the distortion. It antidistorts, so that repeating >the passsage through the atmosphere cancels the distortion. >It sure sounds like there must be a way to use this phenomenon >to cancel out the twinkling of starlight, but it certainly isn't >obvious (at least to me) how. My knowledge here is derived mostly from the recent Scientific American articles. Based on that, I think it can be done, but I doubt that it does any good. One could in this way replace the camera and data transmission facilities in orbit, but I don't see how to replace the lenses and mirrors. That is, once one has an image available, one can use this technique to transmit it to ground; but the hard part in astronomy is getting the image. Also, I'm not sure the anti-distortion works properly over those distances. The technique involves sending a light beam from Earth up to the orbiter, and then back down again. If the orbiter is 300 km up, the round trip takes .002 seconds. In that time, the atmosphere is moving; whether it moves enough to noticeably distort the final image I am not sure. Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108