Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!ucdavis!ucbvax!space From: dietz@SLB-DOLL.CSNET (Paul Dietz) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Future of Space Program Message-ID: <8602091610.AA10226@s1-b.arpa> Date: Sun, 9-Feb-86 09:59:15 EST Article-I.D.: s1-b.8602091610.AA10226 Posted: Sun Feb 9 09:59:15 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Feb-86 07:09:58 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 30 The Feb. 10 issue of Newsweek mentions Thomas Paine (chairman of the National Commission on Space). He was going to mail the first draft of the commission's report to the White House on the day of the disaster. According to Newsweek, the report would have recommended that NASA build an unmanned cargo launcher capable of lifting payload into orbit at $200/lb (is this the much discussed Heavy Lift Vehicle?) and work on either a second generation shuttle or a transatmospheric vehicle, with a five year competition between the systems at the beginning of development (the winner comes on line around 2000). The shuttle disaster may modify these plans; the commission may recommend speeding the development of the new launchers (clap clap). Teleoperators: I'm still convinced teleoperators are going to be vital for high orbit and lunar applications, but their superiority is debatable (or dubious) for some low orbit applications (especially those that can be performed inside a space station). I'm also convinced that using men in space doesn't make much sense until launch costs are reduced (except to practice for the day when they are reduced). I think the shuttle arm and experience on earth with unmanned submarines demonstrates that for *some applications* teleoperators are superior, and my gut feeling is that many or most applications in space will be of this type. Just how many is something I have to admit I can't answer now. Space station: If and when that $200/lb launcher gets going space manufacturing is really going to start making sense. Should construction of the space station be delayed until this cheap launcher is available, or should the full station be built with the shuttle? More likely (and sensible) is to build a small prototype station with the shuttle to get our feet wet, then expand it when the cheap launcher comes on line.