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From: kayuucee@cvl.UUCP
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Subject: Re: re: Final Say
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Date: Mon, 27-Jan-86 09:12:27 EST
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Posted: Mon Jan 27 09:12:27 1986
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> > From:	cvl!kayuucee	(Star-Lord)
> 
> >	Of course, that part of ST history will never change. Kirk was busted
> > down to Captain when the Enterprise went out for its second five year mission
> > and returned only to become an Admiral again. Star Fleet never learns.
> 
> Argh! If there was anything that you should have gotten out of all of the
> discussion about this topic, it's that Kirk wasn't "busted" from Admiral
> down to Captain. He retained his *rank* of Admiral the whole time. He was
> referred to as Captain, because he had the *position* of Captain on the
> Enterprise. While most ship's captains also have the rank of Captain, it
> ain't *necessarily* so. Position and rank are two separate things.
> 
> --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, Acton-Nagog, MA)

	If there is anything I have gotten out of this discussion is that
there is a small group of childish people on the net who are waiting to
pounce on the others with spelling corrections or just because a different
idea is expressed. I admit that I have succumbed to this a few times.
	Also, you are right. Kirk wasn't "busted" from Admiral. He willingly
went back to being a Captain. In the book "Star Trek - The Motion Picture",
on page 251, in the first paragraph:

		`... Well, that suited former Admiral James Tiberius
		 Kirk fine.'

	Looks to me that Kirk wasn't a Admiral anymore.

						Star-Lord

They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Naturally they became heroes