Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site riccb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!riccb!rjnoe From: rjnoe@riccb.UUCP (Roger J. Noe) Newsgroups: net.startrek,net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: "His was the most human" Message-ID: <621@riccb.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Feb-86 18:07:10 EST Article-I.D.: riccb.621 Posted: Tue Feb 4 18:07:10 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Feb-86 05:29:06 EST References: <1623@mtgzz.UUCP> Organization: Rockwell International - Downers Grove, IL Lines: 52 Xref: watmath net.startrek:4694 net.sf-lovers:12217 In article <1623@mtgzz.UUCP> m.r.leeper writes of Kirk's eulogy of Spock: > It is a particularly insensitive thing to say about his > friend who is only half human and has always been (will > always be?) sensitive about his piebald origins. There is > the implication that what the speaker is something that it > is good to be. I can't quite parse the last sentence, but I think I understand the meaning. What surprises me most is that Leeper is usually a very good judge of movie character. Not this time. Since the first Star Trek motion picture, Spock has wholeheartedly accepted his human half and is proud of his unique origins. He is in no way "sensitive" to it. What Kirk is saying is that Spock, even though he was only half human, understood much more what it meant to BE human and that Kirk has learned something from Spock about that. > . . . There has been the prejudice through the whole STAR > TREK series that being a human was the ideal and being a > Vulcan was less than the ideal. I don't necessarily agree with that point, but it really doesn't matter. It's just entertainment, created by humans for the enjoyment of humans. I've never heard any non-humans complain about defamatory or even the most slightly misrepresentative treatment in "Star Trek". More seriously, consider the following two statements: > . . . Spock was always 3/4 of the brains on the ship . . . > The script writers always sharpened their bigotry on the concept > of human superiority to Vulcans. The two are contradictory! If Spock is made to appear so smart, it is due to the efforts of the writers. No, Kirk is not saying, "That's mighty white of you, green man!" He's saying that he (and we) could learn a lot about being human from Spock. Spock's actions were not wholly logical; they were also motivated by compassion. One can easily argue that altruism, especially when it means suicide, is not logical. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one?" Demonstrate that logically. I subscribe to the thought but only because I am human. My cat certainly doesn't believe it and cats seem to have adapted quite well to this world. :-) On a scale of -5 to +5, I'd have to rate m.r.'s article a -4: hit the 'n' key if you possibly can. :-) -- "It's only by NOT taking the human race seriously that I retain what fragments of my once considerable mental powers I still possess!" Roger Noe ihnp4!riccb!rjnoe