Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tekecs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!tektronix!orca!tekecs!marko From: marko@tekecs.UUCP (Mark O'Shea) Newsgroups: net.travel Subject: Re: Just one more Paris observation Message-ID: <5919@tekecs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 30-Jan-86 12:16:12 EST Article-I.D.: tekecs.5919 Posted: Thu Jan 30 12:16:12 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Feb-86 05:44:43 EST References: <454@lzaz.UUCP> <466@olivee.UUCP> <11500@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <476@olivee.UUCP> Reply-To: marko@tekecs.UUCP (Mark O'Shea(alanh)) Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 29 Summary: In article <476@olivee.UUCP> greg@olivee.UUCP (Greg Paley) writes: >> >> Actually, I think that this is one of the better parts of Europe. In a >> lot of ways, I think that the good old USA is becoming a rather sterile >> and antispectic (sp?) place. We seem to be trying to deny our contact >> with the natural world. (Even on children's TV, many of the cartoon >> heros are now machines instead of people.) Accepting animals of a >> natural part of your environment is, in part, a recognition that your >> are part of nature yourself. (Of course, if many people are driven >> to deny their natural selves by trying to completely hide their natural >> odors and pretend that they don't deficate, only "rest.") >> > >I think this is a good point, and is perhaps only the tip of an iceberg. >I've found repeatedly in dealing with Europeans that they tend to find >us Americans superficial and "glossed over". I've also heard a number >of them make the observation that the sort of instant cameraderie we >affect actually seems detrimental to the formation of deeper friendships. >These are points that I've been hard put to argue. > > - Greg Paley/Olivetti ATC I, too, have heard this criticism. The counter to it is that some Europeans are xenophobic, and clanish and use this criticism of Americans to hide that fact. I have found many Europeans to be friendly and very pleasant. I even found friendly French in Paris. Mark O'Shea